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panel mount hole sizes for dsubs[edit]

Can somone place a link, or information to the standard sizes of the panel cutout or "hole" used to mount dsub connectors? I have a ITT canon spec sheet for the connectors, but see no reference for standard hole sizes. I know Greenlee has some standard D-sub hole punches, but are these the same size as the recomended standards, and if so where is this info defined or referenced. Thank You

I posted the above question about 3 years ago. I assume from the lack of response, there is limmitted data on the hole sizes, and perhaps no one outside of the 1950's has this info anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:14, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

DE-9 Joysticks and paddles WERE typically interchangable[edit]

Unlike what the article says, DE-9 "Atari port" Joysticks and paddles WERE typically interchangable between systems, though the mice that could connect to the same ports in some systems were not. Any device that functionally didn't do more than an Atari 2600 Joysticks and/or a pair of Atari 2600 paddles could typically be used on all systems that had this port. True, some systems enhanced the functionality and the matching enhanced controllers were then not (fully) usable on other systems; for example the pass-through interface of the Amstrad/Schneider CPC joysticks that allowed daisy-chaining a second joystick was useless on non-Amstrad/Schneider machines. But the current statement in the article that these devices were not interchangable is simply false. Unless somebody objects, I will change it in a few days. -- (talk) 11:27, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Change done. Please discuss here before reverting anything. Thanks. -- (talk) 12:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The Sega Genesis/Master System used DE9 ports compatible with Atari 2600 sticks but with only one button on 2600 type sticks they weren't usable on the Sega. The Sega 3 and 6 button gamepads would work on Atari and many other consoles and computers using 2600 sticks but only the D-pad and one button would work. The Texas Instruments 99-4 and 99-4/A computers used a single DE-9 port for two single button controllers, using diodes to keeps the signals separate on the shared pins. The Atari 5200 and Jaguar game consoles used DA-15 connections for their controllers. Bizzybody (talk) 08:09, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
This is probably more detail than is warranted in an article about the connector; discussion of the compatibility of peripherals for various systems is better left to the articles about those systems, it's got very little to do with the shape of the plug (once you've got the same plug). --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:36, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Name of Macintosh and Atari 19 pin version?[edit]

Is there an official designation for the 19 pin version used for external Mac floppy drives and Atari hard drives? It's *not* a DB-19 or DA-19 or DE-19 and saying or typing "19 pin D-Subminiature connector" is cumbersome. Bizzybody (talk) 11:06, 29 March 2015 (UTC)