Talk:Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport
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- 1 Spirit Airlines
- 2 Operations vs Passengers
- 3 TrAAin
- 4 Shuttle Landing
- 5 Wright Amendment
- 6 Airline tags
- 7 Non-stop Destinations
- 8 London Heathrow (LHR)
- 9 Seventh Runway?
- 10 / to -
- 11 Diagram
- 12 question about being largest airline
- 13 Champion Air
- 14 Skylink Topspeed
- 15 Size of Manhatten?
- 16 Former Routes
- 17 Fair use rationale for Image:Dfw brand.gif
- 18 Don't bother taking off LGW, LHR you're clear for take off.
- 19 Airtrans
- 20 Disasters
- 21 The Dukes of Hazards Tryouts at D/FW Airport- Drunk Driver Goes All Genral Lee
- 22 Coppell
- 23 Air France
- 24 Article title
- 25 Airport City?
- 26 Aeromexico to once again serve DFW?
- 27 Requested move
- 28 Airport location
- 29 Multiple Issues?
- 30 Busiest international routes from DFW (January 2013 – December 2013)
- 31 American Airlines service to Beijing
- 32 Edit Request
- 33 Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2014
Spirit operates all departures out of E. E has no customs clearance so the Mexico flights arrive into D. It is unclear to the reader to list Spirit as using both D and E. Some travelers use Wikipedia for information about their travels and it is more clear to the reader to have "all" the information they need. Therefore the section on International Arrivals. RicHicks (talk) 00:39, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Operations vs Passengers
"Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport (IATA: DFW, ICAO: KDFW) is the third busiest airport in the world in terms of operations."
What do you mean "in terms of operations?". Is it plane movements or passenger numbers?
The TrAAin has been out of operation for about a year now.
No, the TrAAin is still in operation (as of February 2005). The TrAAin is operated by American Airlines and just runs between Terminals A and C. You are thinking of the slow moving DFW Train which used to run to all of the terminals. That has been out of service for over a year and will be replaced by the new People Mover system this Spring. Currently the airport is using shuttle buses to transfer people between all of the terminals until the new people mover system is operational. Jfitts 00:09, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I have deleted the claim that this airport was the first commercial airport to host a shuttle landing in 1989, since all landings of the shuttle in that year were at Edwards Air Force Base (check the Shuttle Mission Archive). This could refer to a landing of the shuttle aboard its 747 carrier aircraft, in which case the claim could be put back into the article. Although this wouldn't be a "shuttle landing" in the strictest sense, and the claim would have to be reworded. Willy Logan 01:10, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
This always confused me by what was meant since the shuttle clearly never landed here at the end of it's mission. That would have been easily sourced if it had. I thought maybe they meant it had landed there carried on the NASA 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft for an open house. If this was the case DFW would be far from unique. Many airports such as Paris Le Bourget have had that honor. However I think I finally found, quite by accident, what the author really meant. In 1989 following the STS-30 mission Atlantis landed at Edwards AFB. Normally the NASA 747 SCA ferries it back to Florida by refueling at two air force bases enroute depending on weather. The shuttle tiles lose their water proof coating during re entry and it is imperitive the NASA 747 SCA avoid any bad weather that may expose the shuttle to rain. It appears on this ferry flight back they had to land at DFW to avoid rain at their intended destination. This would be the first time (and only time I've heard of) that following the end of a mission the shuttle has stopped at a commercial airport enroute back to Florida. www.airliners.net/open.file/014096/L shows the NASA 747 SCA with Atlantis at DFW following this mission. User:skywayman 00:46, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
- Just a note, I seem to remember something about DFW being the only commercial facility with a runway long enough to land the shuttle, but I may be hallucinating. Eaglizard (talk) 23:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm removing the recent addition about the Wright Amendment controversy. It completely violates the NPOV guideline. CF 00:58, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
should the link to Keep DFW Strong be removed? it probably shouldn't be there unless the corresponding anti-Wright Amendment website Wright Amendment Repeal Page is listed.--188.8.131.52 00:27, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
What's the point of all those airline logos? feydey 23:21, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
The current article is too long because of the destinations list. I think that there should be made a separate article for it to clean up the lengthyness of the airport article.
London Heathrow (LHR)
Recently people keep adding London/Heathrow to airlines such as United Airlines. DFW cannot fly direct to LHR but to London/Gatwick (LGW). This is similar to airports such as Atlanta (ATL) that only flies to LGW.
This should be removed All airlines now fly to Heathrow, both American Airlines and British Airways fly non-stop from DFW to LHR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 21:19, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
"The seventh runway opened in 1996, and is said to have decreased air congestion throughout the United States by approximately 18 to 22 percent."
Not a chance. Without a citation, this has to go--it stands to reason that AA only has a maximum of about a 22 percent share of all domestic traffic and only about 30-40% of that goes thru DFW. "is said" -- by whom?
/ to -
If you are going to change all /'s to -'s please apply it to all of them instead of only a few. There is always CTRL+F if you didn't know.
- The policy decided on by the Wikiproject was to use dashes. If I missed a destination or two, then go ahead and fix them, rather than reverting the entire edit. Dbinder 15:09, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- Also, slashes should be used when listing multi-city airports, but dashes when clarifying which airport in a city.. For example, Minneapolis/St. Paul, but Chicago-O'Hare. Dbinder 15:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Is there anyway we can get a terminal diagram up like the one there is on the George Bush Intercontinental Airport page ? 19:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
question about being largest airline
when reading the wikipedia article American Airlines, it states that AA is the second largest airline group in the world, behind Air France-KLM. Yet on the DFW Airport article, it states that AA is the world's largest?
220.127.116.11 14:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Combined, AF-KL is the largest, but the two still operate as separate airlines. The largest single carrier is AA. Dbinder (talk) 15:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Combined with Northwest, DL is now the world's biggest carrier, but the 2 carriers are still operating seperately (Like AF-KLM). Until DL and NWA start acting as one airline (which will be this time next year), AA is still the worl'd largest in terms of passengers and fleet size. Cashier freak (talk) 04:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
If you go to the home page, they recently put Champion on the list. If you agree, put the airline on the list. Thanks
Oneriver505 23:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC) oneriver505
- Just three days ago, I landed at DFW from SJU and I saw two Champion Air 727's and three Aeromexico 737 Boeings from my Boeing 757. I wonder what's the current status of those carriers at DFW? Antonio Demon of Flight Martin", 17:49, May 31, 2008 (UTC)
Size of Manhatten?
On one of the shuttles it says the airport is the size of manhatten I have a bet running with my sister... Is it Gavinthesavage 19:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- Per consensus at WP:AIRPORTS, former destinations are not to be listed unless they are complete and well-referenced. Those belong in airline destinations. Charmedaddict (talk) 21:59, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Dfw brand.gif
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Don't bother taking off LGW, LHR you're clear for take off.
A few months ago, I came on to this page, and found that AA was going to cancel the Gatwick route, and put in a Heathrow route. A few weeks later, Gatwick was back, but no Heathrow. Then it switched again. Then it happened that both are there. That's now. Could someone clarify? Basketball110 17:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Not to worry. AA has stated they would fly to both Heathrow and Gatwick when the LHR service starts. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 21:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
The article says, "Later, the Airtrans at DFW was split into three separate systems, the regular Airport Train, an employee train, and the American Airlines TrAAin." As far as I can remember the regular Airtrans for passengers and the employee train always existed. They used the same track, but the employee train faced the other side, and its stations were more spartan (no glass doors, bare concrete, and largely obscured from view). I also remember "flatcars," I don't know if these were used for cargo or what. "Airtrans" also refers to a bus service, using the same logo, paint scheme etc. that ran between the terminals, parking ,car rental etc. There was also an intercity bus service (e.g. from the airport to downtown Dallas) called "Surtrans" that used a font and logo similar to that of Airtrans. Unfortunately I don't have sources for any of this other than personal recollection. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Why does the Disasters section list many things that are simply incidents? In fact, why are many of the incidents listed at all? Is it somehow germane to the airport that a flight from there had to divert due to engine problems? I don't think it is.
Also, I really feel sure there have been more actual disasters at DFW than Flight 191. (And here I'm defining 'disaster' as 'somebody died', simplicist that I am.) Maybe there haven't been, maybe I'm just misunderestimating* DFW's safety record. (* sorry, trying to get ready for our new village idio... er, local (p)resident. :^P) Eaglizard (talk) 23:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- I have moved the old (somewhat dramatically named) Disasters section into the more appropriately named Accidents and incidents in line with WikiProject Airports guidelines. I have also removed the non-notable incident regarding an engine failure, again in accordance with the guidelines. SempreVolando (talk) 11:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
The Dukes of Hazards Tryouts at D/FW Airport- Drunk Driver Goes All Genral Lee
Should their be a section about accidents and incidents that don't involve just planes? There have been other incidents such as what happened on June 6, 2010. A drunk driver was speeding down International Parkway and hit a toll booth, which caused the car to fly through the air and damaging the toll booth. No one was hurt during this, though. Mes tex (Mes tex (talk) 17:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)) —Preceding undated comment added 17:33, 18 June 2010 (UTC).
Can anyone provide a source that the airport is actually in Coppell among the others? There seems to be no doubt as to the other three, but it appears that no part is actually within Coppell. The northern boundary of the airport, roughly, is the 114, no? But Coppell's southern boundary is I-635. That would be incongruous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:34, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Is there an official link that mentions Air France to be starting service to DFW this March? If not I will delete it. (talk)
- Can't book such on AF site. Deleting. HkCaGu (talk) 21:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
- Can't add until an official press release is given from Air France itself. If the flight cannot be booked, then it is not starting. Snoozlepet (talk) 05:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Not necessarily true that if a flight can't be booked, it isn't starting. There are still many details and months before it is "supposed" to start. I agree though, until DFW airport or AF announces it, don't add it. I wonder if AF will replace KLM's A330 service that may or may not be coming back next spring. Just lack of Skyteam movement is DFW, I don't think both KLM and AF could survive. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 05:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Why isnt it written Dallas Forth Worth International Airport or Dallas-Forth Worth International Airport? inline with other dual city airports i.e Cologne Bonn Airport and Seattle-Tacoma International Airport inspector (talk) 12:28, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
The Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex is written most of the time as Dallas/Fort Worth. Airport signs in the DFW Metroplex either read DFW or D/FW they are never written D-FW RicHicks (talk) 17:14, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
According to the linked "airport city" article, that term refers to the "inside the fence" shops, hotels, terminals & infrastructure. The gist of that article seems to indicate that almost any larger sized airport could have at least parts of it referred to as the "airport city". Perhaps this should be moved down the the 6th paragraph where the text talks about "in many ways, DFW is run like a small city." IMHO this bit either needs to go or be rewritten... thoughts? JByrd (talk) 21:21, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Aeromexico to once again serve DFW?
Is there an official link or news article that mentions that Aeromexico Connect is going to serve DFW with non-stop service to Mexico City this November? Otherwise if not, it should be deleted. (talk) 5:16, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
It is ridiculous that I have explained my every revert, and yet a third party can simply say "I agree" and demand me to "take it to talk". I will oblige, but will not wait.
- It is already stated in the article and unchallenged that the airport is within the city limits of the four stated cities. Saying "neighboring" is wrong.
- "DFW Airport, TX" is a postal location. The "entity", if at all used, refers to the airport itself. You cannot have an airport located at the airport.
- There is no authoritative use of "DFW Airport, Texas". If we can only call it ", TX", it is itself a reason to disqualify its use as "location" of the airport.
- It is a widely recognized standard across Wikipedia that place names are according to USGS and also communities according to Census. Postal "cities" are summarily rejected as "locations" especially when they are included in any city limits and Census-defined communities, and postal boundaries are likewise rejected whenever differ from political boundaries. Various San Fernando Valley communities with postal city names are called "(whatever) district in Los Angeles". Perhaps the best example is SFO, owned by the City of SF and given the name and ZIP "San Francisco, CA 94128", but its "location" is not at all SF but "unincorporated San Mateo County". HkCaGu (talk) 19:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
What multiple issues does this article have? It has plenty of citations all over the place, including "inline" citations and this article is anything but outdated since its updated every few days. Can someone enlighten me on this? Baseball Watcher 05:10, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Busiest international routes from DFW (January 2013 – December 2013)
Can somebody help me on the citation for this and resulting information in the page I want to recreate this for other airports? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Travisn917 (talk • contribs) 00:07, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
American Airlines service to Beijing
AA has applied to start nonstop flights from DFW to PEK from next summer as per http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/09/25/american-airlines-to-launch-service-from-dfw-to-beijing/ but Beijing should not be listed until an exact date is announced and route approved. So please do not add PEK into the destinations table until the exact date is given as per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 17:46, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
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Can someone add Beijing to American Airlines as a tentative start date of May 7, 2015 with "pending government approval" as service still needs approval? Source: http://www.dallasnews.com/business/airline-industry/20140925-american-airlines-seeks-ok-to-begin-dfw-beijing-flights.ece. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 05:25, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: Per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, a firm date is required to add a new destination. — LeoFrank Talk 16:15, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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American Eagle flies to BPT (Beaumont/Port Arthur Airport)from DFW as well.