Talk:Dan Schneider

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In the Early life section, please add that he was involved in theater in high school and was senior class president in high school. https://www.avclub.com/dan-schneider-on-head-of-the-class-and-creating-some-of-1798234742 2600:100C:A115:208A:9D63:BDB4:928B:9B09 (talk) 21:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talkcontribs) 00:05, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Before the sentence mentioning him attending Harvard University, please add he was involved in theater in high school and was senior class president in high school.2600:100C:A21C:CF07:9DAB:9FC9:268A:B0E6 (talk) 03:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done: The request was clear but did not include a verbatim format. I've simply paraphrased the author's wording and added it accordingly.
Urro[talk][edits] ⋮ 17:42, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In the intro, where it mentions high school, please add that he attended White Station High School. https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news/2018/03/27/nickelodeon-cuts-ties-with-memphisnative-dan.html 2600:100C:A20E:2:C58A:6D35:83EA:7A18 (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: Maybe that is so - that Schneider went to that high school but that source is behind a paywalll & I am unable to verify. If you could find a reliable available source it might be possible to add that information to the article. Shearonink (talk) 18:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misconduct Allegations response[edit]

Should we mention Schneider’s response video in the Misconduct allegations section after Quiet on Set was released? 2600:100C:A20E:2:210D:1B86:4C96:F9E9 (talk) 04:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem relevant, isn't libelous, and is stated directly by him himself, and in some sense corroborates some of the allegations against him. I don't know how much detail we need to go into for this, however. I have the sense that this is an evolving situation and may be delicate; not sure how these kinds of things are handled on here. Youarelovedfool (talk) 03:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Schneider is Jewish[edit]

The source is Nathan Kress. https://youtube.com/watch?si=9di7HgBk44jN3dKq&v=Ud2btHsWgyM&feature=youtu.be Duchy2 (talk) 13:16, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Verified social media accounts may be used for information about the person that owns the account per WP:ABOUTSELF but cannot be used for information about someone else. Generally we would like to see reliable secondary sourcing for ethnicity (Jewish) and religious belief (Judaism - not all Jews are practicing) statements or a statement about that from the subject where this is declared. If in article it would go in the early life section only, not the lead, as not relevant to why notable per MOS:ETHNICITY. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also note that another source being used, an opinion piece by Madison Hahamy using existence of Jewish memes in Schneider's works to conclude he is Jewish, isn't a reliable source for this sort of info. Need something from Schneider himself or some mainstream outlet stating it clearly and unambiguously for use in this article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.canalefuneraldirectors.com/m/obituaries/Carol-Schneider-3/Memories 67.212.57.68 (talk) 23:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Geraldo Perez His mother's obituary is clear proof of him being ethnically Jewish, this obituary was linked to another user here. Why should the fact that he's Jewish be hidden until a 'mainstream outlet' states it as such? The disavowal of using primary sources makes sense when it's a topic that needs an expert's opinion such as anything to do with history or a scientific discovery. It does not make sense when it concerns someone's background, especially one so clear for all to see. Duchy2 (talk) 11:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Death notices are created by the family of the deceased which by itself makes them dubious sources for information contained within. That it is Schneider's mother is confirmed by the mention of Schneider's wife's name in the obit which matches article content. Could use it as a source that his mother was Jewish and what that implies to him by convention (What is a Jew). Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:27, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please note the obituary page mentions Dan himself, His father (Harry) and his wife. Moreover, the location of her funeral was a synagogue in Memphis, Tennessee. I believe this is more than sufficient proof to be used as citation to mention his ethnicity. Vytemagic (talk) 18:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To reiterates Madison Hamamy is not a reliable source - "Madison Hahamy (she/her/hers) is a rising sophomore whose major is currently (and likely will remain this way for the near future) undecided", basically an opinion piece by someone with no reputation for fact checking. The fact that his mother was Jewish is now in the article and sourced by the obit and it is common knowledge that that means Schneider is ethnically Jewish too. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here’s a proof that his dad is jewish as well. The site shows a copy of his dad’s obit.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/129244885/harry-schneider 67.212.57.68 (talk) 01:16, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Less relevant to Schneider than his mother's Jewish ethnicity - universal agreement that Jewish ethnicity is passed by mother. Contentious that it is passed by father. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, but I think it’s fine to simply say “Schneider is Jewish” in his Early Life section. This is the standard format for other Jewish people. Also, I’m sure he is very proud of his heritage, especially since both parents were practicing jews. 67.212.57.68 (talk) 02:10, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No indication he cares one way or the other as it isn't something he talks about based on lack of direct referencing. His parents being practicing doesn't mean he is. I think it sufficient to note his mother is Jewish and let readers draw the obvious conclusion. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:25, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That’s fine, but you’re ignoring precedence for some strange reason. Wikipedia has a style, even though it isn’t codified like AP style or MLA style. Nevertheless, kudos to you for recognizing his mother’s heritage. 67.212.57.68 (talk) 03:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia has a very well-codified WP:Manual of Style. It also has policies we must follow such as WP:Biographies of living persons, WP:No original research and WP:Verifiability. Anything we say about people in a bio article must be well-sourced and we are not permitted to make conclusions not directly supported by what reliable source state. Statements about ethnicity and religious practices fall under that. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what it adds to the article too. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 20:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please familiarize yourself with WP:VERIFIABLE. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 20:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Early Life[edit]

Dan Schneider’s Early Life section should proudly reflect his jewish heritage. If you need another source, look at the Memphis obituary for his father, Harry Schneider. I would attach it here if I could. Charles Marlowe (talk) 04:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: Here’s the link to his mother’s obit: https://www.canalefuneraldirectors.com/m/obituaries/Carol-Schneider-3/Memories — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles Marlowe (talkcontribs) 05:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2024[edit]

Early life

Daniel James Schneider was born in Memphis, Tennessee to a Jewish family,[7] on January 14, 1966,[8] the son of Harry and Carol Aisenberg Schneider. He has three sisters: Sally, Nancy, and Kathy.[9] In high school, Schneider was involved in theater and was senior class president.[10] He found work repairing computers upon returning to Memphis, but soon moved to Los Angeles to pursue a career in the entertainment industry.[11][12] Johndots123 (talk) 12:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The sources in this section don't say anything about his family being Jewish. Jamedeus (talk) 16:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Schneider’s response video to Quiet on Set[edit]

Should we elaborate here on his apology video or should that be just in the article for Quiet on Set? 2600:100C:A211:7F18:C094:B2B7:E951:187D (talk) 02:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2024[edit]

The height is incorrect. It needs to be changed to 4 foot 7 inches. Dragonborne37 (talk) 22:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Ferien (talk) 22:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]