Talk:Darren Criss

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That Media Show[edit]

The official link for [18] is http://blip.tv/that-media-show and this should be the official link to That Media Show.

I have no idea who meefeedia is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanendosei (talkcontribs) 17:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Link corrected. --Mimi C. (talk) 21:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Why has That Media Show been removed? He was the first host and the episodes are available here- http://blip.tv/that-media-show from 2008! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.94.135.74 (talk) 01:46, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Re-added! Thanks for pointing it out. Mimi C. (talk) 03:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Twitter[edit]

Just a reminder people, Twitter is NOT considered a reliable source according to Wikipedia's guidelines. You'll need to find a different source to back-up the same claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.13.99 (talk) 23:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Photograph[edit]

Do we have a picture of him for the infobox? --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 03:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Sexuality[edit]

He plays a gay character on Glee.. do we know his sexual preference in real life? --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 00:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

It says in the career section that unlike his character on Glee, Criss, himself is straight. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 00:39, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
There is no source for this information though. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 00:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, you're right. I guess I didn't catch that. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 13:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't know that it's actually relevant to the article, but this would seem a good source if it were. [1] --Siradia (talk) 09:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

He doesnt play an openely gay character on Glee... The character Blaine has never admitted to being gay.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.37.4.252 (talk) 22:43, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually, yes he has, in his first episode even. When speaking to Blaine, Wes, and David about his "spying" on them. Kurt: "Can I ask you guys a question? Are you guys all gay?" <chuckle> Blaine: "Uh, no, I mean, I am, but these two have girlfriends." Then they go on to discuss his past problems at his old school related to being taunted for being gay. --Siradia (talk) 07:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

http://www.afterelton.com/meme-11-10-2010 Another source that involves Darren discussing his coming out as straight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.137.12 (talk) 12:08, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Also he said he was straight on Ellen. Check it out it's on YouTube. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.44.158.115 (talk) 05:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


You just need to see some of the interviews that they've been made to him, and he always sais he is not gay at all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.35.13.16 (talk) 22:23, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

He is gay —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.170.11.251 (talk) 04:31, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Looks like any reference to his not-gayness gets deleted quickly. Anyway, From this interview in Vanity Fair he says:

And so for the longest time when people asked me about Blaine, I wanted to say It doesn’t matter. And it doesn’t. But I don’t want to devalue it, because it’s a very earnest question, and I can see why people would want to know. And I realized that if I said, It doesn’t matter, that immediately means that I’m gay. So I do define myself as a straight male, but it really doesn’t come into play with me in this role. As an actor, your objective is always to play the scene. And this case, he happens to be a gay teen.

Maybe someone can work this into the text appropriately; it's a legitimate, sourced, fact. Barsoomian (talk) 04:01, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Ethnic heritage[edit]

The page is locked, or I'd just clean this up myself: "Criss was born in San Francisco, California. His mother, a native of Cebu, Philippines, is a Filipina and his father of Irish descent.[3][4]"

It's redundant to say that a native of the Philippines is a Filipina.

How about, "His mother is a native of Cebu, Philippines, and his father is of Irish descent."

Or "His mother is a native of Cebu, Philippines, and his father is an American of Irish descent."

Or "His mother is a native of Cebu, Philippines, and his father is an Irish American." Hostgeeky (talk) 19:52, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Hostgeeky (talk) 21:58, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree. Comments about his ethnicity is stupid. His mother is Filipina with Chinese, Spanish and Filipino mix? I thought Filipinos are Filipinos. Some are good looking and some are average and some are ugly. Just like any other race. Why do Filipinos discredit their ethnicity by telling people that they are mixed with Spanish. Ugh. So pisses me off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.211.229 (talk) 15:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Roman Catholic[edit]

Why is he listed as an American Roman Catholic? First off, the article doesn't even say anything about his religion or anything related to it. Second, he said in this interview:

"I believe in things greater than us, and I believe in love and human beings, and I believe in reverence and spirituality and divinity. Whether or not that is embodied in whatever doctrines might call a god is not really important to me. I just believe in a greater something and I believe in good people.”

I mean, that doesn't sound like someone who is a Roman Catholic. Just a thought. Epo9 (talk) 20:33, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Blaine's age on Glee[edit]

Mmmkay, so I don't think this page is able to be edited right now (or at least I can't figure out how), but there's an error. Someone states that in Season 3 of Glee Blaine is going to be a year younger than Kurt, but we don't yet know if this is true. He could be the same age, or he could be a year younger, the writers haven't decided yet (or they're not telling us). So that needs to be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.51.168.16 (talk) 16:36, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

It has been established now that Blaine is a Junior. Kurt is running for Senior class president and when they were doing the auditions for West Side Story Blaine did not want to audition for Tony because he got the impression that they would not give it to someone who was not a senior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.127.106 (talk) 15:40, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 13 October 2011[edit]

Please add Chinese link to the page: zh:达伦·克里斯

ILoveKlaine (talk) 08:05, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Done: A bot came through and added the link five minutes after your request was posted. Bots seem to take care of these links automatically from several languages to English, including Chinese and Russian. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:17, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 February 2012[edit]

I am requesting that Darren Criss' age be changed from 24 to 25.

Thank you.

Footiegal1997 (talk) 17:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 17:58, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand Footiegal1997's request: when I look at the article, the infobox shows an age of 25 and a birthdate of February 5, 1987. There have been no edits to the page today at all, so it should have said 25 ever since his birthdate 15 days ago. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:34, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Occupations[edit]

The intro was changed today to split "singer-songwriter" into "singer, songwriter", though the infobox still says "singer-songwriter". While the two need to agree, I think this is a good opportunity to discuss what both ought to say.

The list is currently "actor, singer, songwriter, musician, and composer". There are two sets of overlapping terms here now that "singer-songwriter" is split: singer and musician, and songwriter and composer. In both cases, the first term is a subset of the second: all singers are musicians, and all songwriters who write the music are composers. (I'm not positive that "songwriter" always encompasses both lyrics and music as it does for "singer-songwriter", but I suspect it does.)

So the problem is the list is a bit redundant now. You could use "singer" and "instrumentalist" rather than "singer" and "musician", which isn't redundant. As he isn't primarily known as an instrumentalist, I'd probably just drop "musician". However, I like that "singer" is separate from "songwriter", since he's very much known as a singer, and one who sings a great many covers on Glee that end up released as singles and sell tens of thousands of copies each. While he is an instrumentalist, I can't tell whether he is so at the level or importance of the other three: whether it's as independent of the others as acting, singing, and songwriting is.

I'd frankly drop "composer" in favor of the existing "songwriter", since he's primarily a songwriter. If he's done some scoring for the Starkid musicals—background music or instrumental interludes—they don't seem to be his main focus, and can be omitted from the intro and infobox, though they can be mentioned in the body of the article.

That leaves "actor, singer and songwriter", which I think summarizes what he does quite well, both what, and in order of importance/fame. Thoughts? BlueMoonset (talk) 15:29, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Blue!

Here is my reasoning for splitting "singer-songwriter" and the inclusion of "musician" and "composer":

First of all, I changed "singer-songwriter" to "singer, songwriter" because the definition on Wikipedia of singer-songwriter is "a distinct form of artistry, closely associated with the folk-acoustic tradition...with the material angled toward topical issues—sometimes political, sometimes introspective, sensitive, romantic, and confessional." This does not relate to Criss. This is more Bob Dylan/50's, 60's era type of music.

Why I included "Composer": Darren not only composed the music (apart from the songs) for A Very Potter Musical, but also for A Very Potter Sequel and Starship - 3 out of the 4 musical productions StarKid has produced. He has previously referred to himself as "resident composer of StarKid" and has discussed writing the score and music for their productions in interviews. The chart success of StarKid albums on both Billboard and iTunes is definitely notable. He has been referred to a composer in numerous magazines and newspapers, including Billboard Magazine. He is also a member of the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers.

Why I included "Musician": He not only plays a variety of musical instruments, he also plays them at music events and at his own personal concerts. He also uses his instrumental ability to compose music.

Also, in interviews he refers to himself as both a composer and musician.

Singer/Musician - I find the wiki definition of musician confusing - "an artist who plays a musical instrument or sings." When I look up the term on a regular dictionary, it does not mention singing. If I'm not mistaken, I think most people relate the term "musician" to someone who can play a musical instrument, particularly when both "singer" and "musician" are listed as occupations - one can automatically distinguish between the two (i.e. John Mayer). Plus, there are numerous people on Wikipedia listed as both singers and musicians.

Songwriter/Composer: While I realize that "songwriter" and "composer" are closely related, I think it is necessary to point out that, in Darren's case, he writes his own personal songs (with music and lyrics), but also composes music (scores, background music etc. in addition to songs) for musical theater.--Mimi C. (talk) 03:47, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Mimi. Fair warning: since I'm someone who is not only a musician but edits material on music and musicians, I'm fussier than most when it comes to matters like this. So apologies in advance if that gets the better of me.
I'm fine with eliminating "singer-songwriter". Splitting it into "singer" and "songwriter" causes other issues (see below), but "singer" is solid, as is "actor". Those are the two things he's most famous for.
"Musician" is someone who makes music. The wiki definition is absolutely correct: singers are included, and always have been. The problem: it is a general term, somewhat vague, and open to misinterpretation, as you have discovered. That's yet another reason not to use it.
"Singer" is someone who sings. "Instrumentalist" is someone who plays one or more instruments. They're not ambiguous. Combined, "singer" and "instrumentalist" (plus conductor and a few other unique odds and ends) form "musician". The problem with using both "singer" and "musician" is that latter completely encompasses the former, which you shouldn't have in lists. (It's the same theory as Wikipedia categories: you wouldn't have "New York residents" and "New York City residents" for the same person, since living in the city automatically means you live in the state.)
So where does that leave us? If you want "singer" and "instrumentalist", I'm fine with that. "Singer" and "musician" is not okay. Sure, he calls himself a musician, because he is one. That's the most general term. He's also a pop singer, and a television performer, and a whole bunch of other things from very specific to more general: dozens could be listed, but shouldn't be.
As you say, "songwriter" and "composer" are closely related. In fact, "composer" covers both. There are classical composers who write their own lyrics, and they're still just called "composer". If you want composition in there, that's fine, but it encloses songwriting, so both should not coexist on that list. He writes music: songs, musical scores, background music, and so on. That's the definition of a composer. Again, it's a matter of emphasis: you can call him a composer or a songwriter, but you have to pick one.
For now, I'm going to separate "singer-songwriter" in the infobox so it matches what you've done in the intro; the two lists disagree at the moment, and they shouldn't. However, the ultimate list should not have "musician" on it for the reasons explained above, and "composer" and "songwriter" are too similar to both be included. I think you know the extent of Darren's work better than I so you can better choose which term reflects his work most accurately. One other edit I'm remaking: you link to Starkid twice in the intro, which is against Wikipedia policy, so I'm again going to remove the second of those links. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad to know that you are a musician because I find these terms all quite confusing! Thanks for your explanations. I changed "musician" to "instrumentalist". I am still not sure how to correctly use "songwriter" and "composer" in Darren's case. The wiki definition of songwriter says "not to be confused with composer". In my interpretation, a songwriter writes lyrics and music for a particular song (a lyricist and a composer in one) and a composer (even though they can be songwriters) can also be interpreted as exclusively focusing on the music of a play, movie, opera etc.. (i.e. the wiki description of Cole Porter). Or am I incorrect? When a person writes the scores for musical theater productions (omitting songs) are they not exclusively called composers? The term "composer" encompasses so much that I want to find a way to distinguish between scoring a musical and writing a song, since they are two differrent skill sets.(i.e. Stephen Sondheim - he is described as both a composer and lyricist - one could argue that their is no need to put down "lyricist" since "composer" covers that. Yet using both terms to describe him makes sense to the general public since he is a famed lyricist). I think as long as the differences between the two terms are described in the article (as in the case of Cole Porter), then both terms can be used as different occupations. Let me know what you think.

I'm afraid I have to give up for the night. Every time I try to reply, you've made a tiny adjustment to your already published comments, and it gives me an edit conflict. I'll try again tomorrow when the page is stable. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:56, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Oops, sorry:) Have a good night!

Glee albums[edit]

Do you have a source that Criss is credited as being on the album? The credits listed on Allmusic do not include him, a couple of other cast regulars like Morris and Shum, or any of the recurring guest stars except for Overstreet. Absent a reliable source, it should probably be removed. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The Allmusic website incorrectly credited Lea Michele, Cory Monteith, Chord Overstreet, and Amber Riley
on the song "Good Riddance" as lead vocalists. It is actually a duet between Cory Monteith (Finn) and Darren (Blaine).
References: http://www.thewrap.com/music/column-post/glee-cd-review-pomp-and-circumstance-themed-graduation-album-39811 and ::http://www.buddytv.com/articles/glee/glee-listen-to-songs-from-seas-45786.aspx
Darren and the rest of the cast are also featured on background vocals on some of the songs of the Graduation Album, but they are only credited under "Glee Cast".--Mimi C. (talk) 21:57, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Removing Non-professional credits from the professional credits section[edit]

I just removed all non-notable credits for Mr. Criss that he did while in college. The Star Kid stuff has been established as notable, however his roles as a student, must be notable to be included. And regardless, are non-professional credits. -Aaron Booth (talk) 03:32, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 March 2013[edit]

' 'Starring Daniel Felipe Garzon Callejas Bogota, Colombia www.twitter.com / danielcallejasg increased participation lies in the FOX series Glee Danielcallejasg (talk) 03:34, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Please give edit requests in the form of "change X to Y". - Camyoung54 talk 15:08, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Personal[edit]

Criss is very private, so there is no news on his personal aspects, which is not needed due to something called privacy

No one knows for sure if Darren Criss is single. He likes to keep his private life private. And from what fans can tell there is no proof of a actual relationship at this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marie111982 (talkcontribs) 18:18, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014[edit]

I would like to edit Darren's personal life YouCantSitWithUs (talk) 18:45, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights. If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request. - Arjayay (talk) 15:28, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Change Of "Eurasian"[edit]

Why Mimi C. reverted my edit, I change "Eurasian" to "mixed-race" because "Eurasian" is informal and I can't say that Barack Obama is Eurafrican that's not fair, where the races equality ? there is no vague definition after just few words there his descent --POTDL (talk) 22:24, 27 August 2014 (UTC).

National Latin Exam Award?[edit]

I don't understand how a minor scholastic achievement is noteworthy enough to include on a wiki page for a professional singer. The National Latin Exam is a high school Latin test. I don't see National Honor Society included on this list either; surely, following the same logic, that warrants inclusion on this list as well? I don't think this is germane for a wiki page of a musician or even a Classics professor at Harvard. So, I don't think it should be included in the awards section here. Sorry to be so insistent, but this inclusion in the awards section detracts from the seriousness of the page itself. It makes me question the worthiness of the page in general. To me, seeing National Latin Exam award is like one of those bumper stickers that say "My child is on the honor roll at Local Town Middle School". It's completely unrelated to the interest of the article and makes the article look strangely sycophantic. Is there, perhaps, a reason for this addition that I am unaware of? Adam.goldfarb (talk) 21:35, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree. It's trivial and not worth mentioning. Hostgeeky (talk) 22:41, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2015[edit]

Under "Advocacy and charity work," please update "Public School Arts" to "P.S. ARTS" and, if possible, link to https://www.psarts.org/

Thank you! 75.142.100.199 (talk) 18:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 04:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2016[edit]

Change profile photo to a more recent one: Elsie Fest for exemple. BBCriss (talk) 02:26, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The image lacks evidence of permission. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:38, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Emmy Nomination citation needed[edit]

Glee (2010-2015) Criss was nominated for a Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Original Music and Lyrics for writing "This Time". this is the official link

Glee Awards and Nominations. http://www.emmys.com/shows/glee Retrieved April 29, 2016

Andrearinak (talk) 01:40, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Discography[edit]

On March 8th, Darren and his brother Chuck (member of the Freelance Whales) released an EP entitled Lost Boys Life. This was also the debut of their new band Computer Games.--Kellyjg98 (talk) 20:24, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

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