Talk:Darwin among the Machines

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i don't know where to put this but this all makes no fcking sense. it's a fcking computer. not life. it well never evolve like in the terminator or the matrix. it is a machine. it has no will to live. it's not life. these arguments are ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:47, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Pseudonym Cellarius once linked to Cellarius disambiguation page, but was piped to Samuel Butler (novelist), and the thoroughly ambiguous statement: "...signed Cellarius, which can be construed as his name in Latin...." The dab adds it is Latinized "Keller."
Cellar is the English equivalent, which butlers sometimes visit, but it is a real stretch to say that was how Butler construed it, absent a contemporary Authority who says so. The authors of the Federalist Papers used the pseudonym "Publius", in honor of Roman consul Publius Valerius Publicola, and there is a citation for that. Absent a citation for Butler's usage, the next best thing is the dab page. In chronological order above Butler's entry, it lists Weimar classical scholar Christoph Keller, 1638-1707, who signed himself Christoph Cellarius. His Universal History Divided into an Ancient, Medieval, and New Period popularized this tripartite division, which then became a standard, and which would have been known to Butler's more scholarly contemporary readers, and adds scholarly panache to Butler's theme. As a Wiki'd editor, I'm forbidden to construe that Butler similarly honored that particular historical user of the name; but as a Wiki'd user, I may jump to that conclusion. I would that other readers be given the same opportunity.
I changed the author's entry to {{Citation needed|October 2012}}, and this one to Cellarius (q.v.,) --Pawyilee (talk) 07:41, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Created [[Cellarius (name)]] with template #REDIRECT [[Cellarius]] {{R to disambiguation page}} to redirect to Cellarius disambiguation page, which does not include "(disambiguation)" in its name. --Pawyilee (talk) 10:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Cellarius (name) redirects to Cellarius (disambiguation), for the usage as pseudonym by Samuel Butler (novelist) in his letters to the editor of The Press is ambiguous.--Pawyilee (talk) 15:29, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Source required[edit]

This statement

This article, along with later writings by Butler on "machine evolution", was probably largely satirical in intent, although he may have been using these fanciful writings to explore some real philosophical issues like the question of whether biological life and evolution can be explained in purely mechanical terms (see the discussion at the end of the 'Book of the Machines' section below).

seems to me to be an opinion and it is not sourced. I have no objection to this material here with a source but strongly oppose its inclusion unsourced so have deleted for the moment. We either can source the claims or we cant. Thanks, ♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 02:00, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Use of Long Quotations[edit]

I'm unhappy with the use of such long quotations in this article - we might just as well reprint the entire book. Perhaps this could be discussed here. RomanSpa (talk) 08:42, 6 August 2014 (UTC)