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- 1 Notice of RFC
- 2 There is currently a discussion and !vote in the Manual of Style regarding en dashes.
- 3 Image illustrating the different hyphens, en-dashes and em-dashes could be more illustrative
- 4 What'
- 5 Em and en refer to units of typographic measurement, not to the letters M and N.
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Notice of RFC
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There is currently a discussion and !vote in the Manual of Style regarding en dashes.
Interested parties are invited to participate: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#Proposed_change_.282.29 startswithj (talk) 23:23, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Image illustrating the different hyphens, en-dashes and em-dashes could be more illustrative
"The most common versions of the dash are the en dash (–) and the em dash (—), named for the length of a typeface's lower-case n and upper-case M respectively."
Then later in the article: "The widths of en and em dashes have also been specified as being equal to those of the upper-case letters N and M respectively, and at other times to the widths of the lower-case letters."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Em_(typography)#History has a good explanation with a good picture. Terrel Shumway (talk) 13:58, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Deleted 18:06, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Em and en refer to units of typographic measurement, not to the letters M and N.
"Em and en refer to units of typographic measurement, not to the letters M and N. In a traditional metal font, the em was the vertical distance from the top of a piece of type to the bottom. The en was half the size of the em. Originally, the width of the em and en dashes corresponded to these units. In today’s digital fonts, they run narrower." 
See also: 
- The quoted paragraph as written at PracticalTypography.com is misleading because it is too oversimplified, to the point of misstatement. They were trying so hard to explain to a total-novice reader that they created a misapprehension that the one has no relationship whatsoever to the other, which is false. There is in fact a relationship (a fuzzy historical one) between the letters M and N and the measurement units of em and en (and their names). The relationship is touched on in the linked WP section (Em_(typography)#Incorrect_and_alternative_definitions). And Words Into Type, third edition, one of the blue-chip references in typography (and thus one of the R-est of WP:RSs on this subject), makes clear that it exists (pp. 498, 501–502, 539). I agree that Wikipedia should explain it better. Not even Words Into Type explains it well enough; for example, it uses the phrase "the square of" in a nonmathematical way, falsely implying that an em would be (solely) a unit of surface area (which is not accurate). Still, it makes clear that a relationship exists. Quercus solaris (talk) 14:22, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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Most people use the minus sign: (-) as a dash sign: [ a. short dash: (–), b. long dash (—) ] inbetween words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:582:5821:E400:6DE0:C7C1:3118:3720 (talk) 12:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)