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Allen[edit]

All these are basically copied passages from Allen, Helena G. (1995). Kalakaua: Renaissance King. Honolulu: Mutual Publishing. ISBN 978-1-56647-059-9. OCLC 35083815. 

http://www.usgwarchives.net/hi/koc.htm

Source for military[edit]

Kuykendall 1967: Military organization, 5, 13, 206, 345, 352, 403, 404, 410-411, 421, 431, 432n, 465-466, 722 (n. 107), 606; "Royal Guards, " "Leleiohoku Guard" (cavalry), "Prince's Own" (artillery), "Hawaiian Guards" (infantry), 13; in 1886, "Honolulu Rifles, " "King's Own, " "Queen's Own, " "Prince's Own, " "Mamalahoa Guard, " "King's Household Guards, " 350-352

KAVEBEAR I'm glad you added this section. I know you asked me about the Military Act back in January. One thing that has been in my mind since I began working on articles about Kalakaua is his focus on the military. When we see the images of hm, most are in a military uniform. When he made that trip around the world, he was always touring military schools, military arsenals, military everything that was available to him. And as ill-received as his Polynesian confederation ended up being, it was not a bad idea in theory, just badly executed. That was a time period when powerful nations were gobbling up everything. England had most of southeast Asia as its colonies, Germany was gobbling up the Pacific nations, the United States had just acquired its entire southwest by taking a large part of Mexico in a war, and was aiming to annex Hawaii. Polynesia should have had a protectorate from its own culture, but there was none strong enough. Kalakaua had a good idea, but he made bad choices in the people he listened to. — Maile (talk) 02:18, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Yeah definitely. His critics often consider his ideas too grandiose and expensive for the relative small size of the kingdom and even decades before during Kamehameha V's reign you have Mark Twain sarcastically calling Hawaii, a nation "playing empire". He definitely seem to emulate the ceremonial aspects of the Prussian style militaristic nationalism he saw in Germany, Japan and other nations in Europe and wanted to recreate it back home--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:30, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

1887 act?

Timeline on the coma and death[edit]

  • Kuykendall (page 473) says he died on January 20, and "the last two days the king was unconscious. ", which would mean he fell into the coma on January 18. Kuykendall doesn't use the word "coma".
  • Karpiel, Frank J. , Jr. (August 2000). "Mystic Ties of Brotherhood: Freemasonry, Ritual, and Hawaiian Royalty in the Nineteenth Century". Pacific Historical Review. University of California Press. 69 (3): 357–397. doi:10.2307/3641714. JSTOR 3641714. (Subscription required (help)). 
pp 292-293 - Never mentions Santa Barbara or the stroke. This says that "by early January" in SF he was becoming lethargic. On January 14, he insisted on attending his lodge initiation in SF, and was given Vin Mariani to get him on his feet. He went to his initiation and was back in an hour. The "next morning" would have been Jan 15, he elapsed into his coma after breakfast. It still says he died on Jan 20. But this has him in a coma for five days. The source Karpiel used for this was the actual medical report from Dr. Woods. P. 394 is an image of his Jan 14 certification of his lodge initiation. — Maile (talk) 22:53, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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Kalakaua[edit]

The article states " The new constitution was nicknamed the Bayonet Constitution because of the duress under which it was signed. His sister Liliuokalani stated in Hawaii's Story that her brother was convinced that if he didn't sign, he would be assassinated. She wrote that he no longer knew who was friend or foe, felt betrayed by people he once trusted, and had told her that everywhere he went he was under constant surveillance.[108]" So he wasn't 'forced', but maybe 'pressured' is too lax. Can you think of a middle ground? Thanks ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ᐐT₳LKᐬ 17:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

I would suggest you take this to the article's talk page. — Maile (talk) 18:02, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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