Talk:Dawn of the Black Hearts
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Dawn of the Black Hearts picture should be removed, it is the ACTUAL picture of the lead singer after he committed suicide, therefore is very disrespectful and unappreciated.
But it's also the ACTUAL cover.
picture must not be removed!
Well, given that it does depict a person with his skull blown open, wrists slit, and what looks to be bits of brain sitting beside him, the picture should probably be behind some kind of warning, since it is graphic by any standards. What about taking down this image and providing an off-site link (with a fair warning)? Its about the same thing that is done here with articles on intrinsically disturbing (visually, that is) things like the harlequin fetus, to use one example.
It's an album cover and it has everything to do with the subject matter so it stays. Get over it. Wikipedia and life in general are not censored for the squeamish. Sion 10:14, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
I guess if you're the kind of person who is offended by this, you probably shouldn't be listening to Mayhem anyway. 22.214.171.124 07:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Brains are cool to look at. the juggreserection 13:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Agreed, that's about the coolest album cover EVER! But seriously, think about this for a moment. Where does it say you can't have a picture of a dead person on Wikipedia? Why is it alright to write about death but not show a picture? Should pictures of concentration camps be censored too? Paintings of Jesus' crucification? Should we only record history that you think is appropriate? --126.96.36.199 (talk) 01:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
The photo is in very poor taste, the singer's family is not happy with it. I'd like to keep the site child-safe if possible, this photo is sensationalistic and has no informational value. Besides, even though the photographer is dead, the photo is not public domain, and it was used on the bootleg without permission or payment, so any fair use rationale for reproducing the cover is moot. I remove the photo now, I expect it to be up again in ten minutes. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 21:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
If you can show me where Ohlin's family objects to the photo, I'll be content. But keep this in mind- it wasn't them who took it, it was one of the people from Mayhem (probably Aarseth, but no one really knows), so they'd have the rights to it. And if we can show pictures of some bastard on a cross, why not show a picture of a suicide? And finally, people aren't going to accidentally stumble across this page, it's not easy to find.
Here is a picture from an interview with Pelle's brother, Anders, included in 2016's Peaceville's release of "Live in Zeitz", where he asks for the picture not to be spread. https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/13466483_1824520974435755_6989087685867764171_n.jpg?oh=f1e64f9bfff3f0aa2242cbe85cefc60b&oe=58984095&__gda__=1486736837_6403e0d490cf6abdfaabe874baece92b
Also, the notes in the official release of his first band, Morbid - "Year of the Goat", released by surviving band mates, clearly says:"No thanks to the distributors and buyers of the post-mortem pic. Fuck you." https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/333634_296365473723938_1358387437_o.jpg
On the cover
This is purely speculation on my part, but I wouldn't put moving stuff around past someone who would take a picture like this. Or maybe it landed like that somehow. Strange things happen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 11:09, 17 June 2010 (UTC)