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Thank you[edit]

It's impossible to put in one single text all the contribute that DeRose has given to Yôga all over the world, but I have to admit that this is a great summary. Thank you for the good work. Pedro Mar, Portugal 13th March 2012

I really admire this page. It's very rich and truthful. Thank you for having done it. Paulo Pacifici Metodo DeRose, Instructor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 18:02, 30 March 2010

I have known Master DeRose for 7 years. I have study from his books and all my knowledge come from his source. He is a future head and thanks him many people transform and improve their lives. I have testimony parents thankfully for their sons. It is impossible to number how many people nowadays are enjoy all his knowledge. I voluntary myself to help in translation to my mother language, Portuguese, to develop this article/ page. This page is being extremely useful for me.

Sonia Ferreira London, UK —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chandrachuda (talkcontribs) 12:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm very glad to have a Wiki about DeRose! DeRose wrote more than 20 books. His life and work are very important for humanity. I know DeRose since 1997, when I started to study and practice DeRose Method. I've seen thousands of practictioners and instructors improving their lives through DeRose Method. You can check many of websites of DeRose Method school, instructors' blogs and some interviews at

Marcelo Tessari DeRose Method instructor in New York


Van Lysbeth includes DeRose's book in his bibliography on one of his latest books. I'll come back later with the exact information. Also many states of Brazil have declared DeRose's birthday as "Day of Yôga". This is definetly proof of notability. He has also been very present in the media, this should also validate it's notability. --Dwaynemac (talk) 23:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

response to Wikipedia[edit]

I have been made aware that this page is being discussed by wikipedia. Is this the correct place to discuss this article? or is there a chat somewhere else? I am new to wikipedia so I would like to apologise if I have violated some terms. I have been adding to the page Master DeRose. I started adding to the Swasthya yoga page fist, however I felt I was concentrating too much on master DeRose, so I decided it would be better to make one of him alone, thus I created a new page and erased the content I had added to SwaSthya to put it on the DeRose method. I did not mean to violate the Swasthya Page.

All the information I uploaded has back up in various books, and interviews held with Master DeRose in Braslian Media and Argentinean media. Can you please give me feed back on how to improve this page? For now until you find someone fluent in Portuguese to confirm all the information I have uploaded I can stop adding information.

March 31, 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeRose London (talkcontribs) 13:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Testimonial from OrdemMeritoIndiasOrientais

Ordem do Mérito das Índias Orientais certifies the truthfullness of the statements below, published on Wikipedia about writer and educator DeRose. Ordem do Mérito das Índias Orientais is a not-for-profit, non-political, non-religious cultural institution that was officially created in 2008, in the city of Penafiel, Portugal, with the purpose of: - acknowledging public recognition to various individuals and institutions with outstanding contribution in the national and foreign cultural, social and philantropic areas; - promoting India's ancient cultural and philosophical inheritance; - establishing relevant links within the India-Brazil-Portugal cultural circuit; All these actions are publically and officialy marked by the attribution of honorary medals and decorations, and by the organization of several cultural events. The foundation act of this institution was honoured by the presence and the official support of the Portuguese Ministry of Culture, the Health Services Secretary of State, Dr. Manuel Pizarro, the Júlio Resende Foundation (Júlio Resende is a woldwide renowned Portuguese painter) and the Mayor of the city of Penafiel, Dr. Alberto Santos. Among the events put forward by Ordem do Mérito das Índias Orientais as a tribute to DeRose, we would like to mention two in particular: DeRose Culture and DeRose Gala, two annual events made in Portugal, consisting of a series of cultural events, including exhibitions and artistic performances related to ancient India’s culture and philosophy. The 2008 edition of the DeRose Gala featured an Exhibition/Installation based on one of DeRose’s books (Sútras – Máximas de Lucidez e Êxtase) – see the vídeo presentation at: The Exhibition which took place at the Museu Municipal de Penafiel, which was officially nominated for the EMYA 2010 (European Museum of the Year Award), which awards each year the museums that significantly contribute to cultural development on their specific area of expertise and to European cultural exchange. These year’s editions will be specially dedicated to celebrating DeRose’s Golden Jubilee. This way we will be marking the 50 year mastership of this worldwide renowned writer, educator and philosopher with a special tribute during the DeRose Gala 2010, for which several institutions and individuals were invited. Already for DeRose’s 25 year mastership celebration a commemorative medal was released in Portugal to mark that significant date. These events welcome yearly some of the biggest international authorities on Ancient Yôga and also a few hundred participants coming from Portugal, Brazil, Spain, France, Italy, United Kingdom and Germany.

As per our official invitation, DeRose joined Ordem do Mérito das Índias Orientais as Grand Master, which very much honours this institution. In that post he awarded several individuals in 2008 and 2009, such as: - Júlio Resende (worldwide renowned painter) and the Júlio Resende Foundation - Journalist and writer António Mateus - Dr. Manuel Pizarro (Health Services Secretary of State, member of the Portuguese Republic’s government) - Prof. Giuseppe Mea (representative of the Italian community in Portugal). As referred in DeRose’s Historic, between years 2001 and 2002 he was acknowledged as Master in Yôga and Honoris Causa doctorate (Notorious knowledge in Yôga / non-academic) by Universidade Lusófona de Lisboa and by Universidade do Porto (Portugal).

The prestige he has gathered throughout the years for his honest and anti-commercial posture has found an echo in the international media and is materialized by the cultural support of various official institutions, like the Indian Embassy in Brazil and Portugal.

One of the most recent interviews to DeRose was made in 2009 by Portuguese journalist and writer António Mateus*. It was released on a DVD entitled “Conversas com Rumo”. The following caption languages are currently available: spanish, german, italian, The english version will soon be released ( Also in April 2009 DeRose was interviewed by Portuguese State TV Channel TV2. ( On May 2007 he was the special guest of Portuguese TV show “Páginas Soltas”, hosted by Bárbara Guimarães

   * António Mateus started his career as a reporter in the O Globo newspaper, in 1982. He worked in the News Agencies NP and Lusa and he headed both their delegations in Maputo and Johanesburg from 1986 to 2003. He collaborated several times with BBC, Voice of America, Portuguese radio broadcast station RDP, Visão and Expresso (two of the most relevant Portuguese magazines and newspapers). He worked for the three Portuguese TV channels before joining RTP’s board (the public TV channel) in 1996, as Information and Program Coordinator of RTP Africa. He was the first Communication Advisor for CPLP (Community of Portuguese Speaking Countries), Managing Director-founder of Focus magazine, RTP’s International Politics Editor and, as of today, Editor for two major TV news shows, Telejornal and Jornal 2. During the 16 years he spent in southern Africa as a reporter, he ensured daily coverage of the developments on Angola and Mozambique’s civil wars and the subsequent peace endeavors. He also closely accompanied and reported all the negotiations for the Cuban withdrawal from Angola, Namibia’s independence process and the end of apartheid in South Africa, among several other relevant media issues. While he worked as a news correspondent in South Africa, he interviewed tens of world notorious individuals, like the Nobel prize awarded Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu and Frederik de Klerk. He closely accompanied the first six years of Nelson Mandela’s life after being released from captivity. These experiences were the starting point for António Mateus’ two books: "Homens vestidos de Peles Diferentes" (Ulmeiro) e "Selva Urbana" (Colibri). For more information on writer and journalist António Mateus: The above text is the short English version of his profile, taken from the blog.

Ten of DeRose’s 25 literary works were published in Portugal: Tudo sobre Yôga Origens do Yôga Antigo Mitos e Verdades Encontro com o Mestre Eu me lembro… Alternativas de relacionamento afectivo Chakras e kundaliní Sútras – Máximas de Lucidez e Êxtase Quando é preciso ser forte and Tratado de Yôga (in Sanskrit: Yôga Shástra), the world’s most comprehensive book on Yôga ever published, in the whole history of Yôga. It comprises 58 breathing exercises, 32 mantras, 27 kriyás, 52 concentration and meditation exercises, 108 mudrás and their correspondant pictures, and over 2.000 physical techniques (ásanas) and their correspondant photos. This book is a classic. It teaches a peculiar, far reaching subject, which is treated in an accurate and elegant language, as never seen before in this publishing field. DeRose’s Tratado deYôga is a canonical masterpiece when it comes to dealing with the millenary philosophy of Yôga. DeRose has been researching and teaching for 50 years, in a continuous struggle to rescue the Ancient Yôga’s true essence, without ever giving way to modern trends that tend to simplify, adapt, westernize or mix this noble cultural inheritance with other proposals. This masterpiece was made with over 200 collaborations, improvements and additions. We replaced the two thousand, one hundred and sixteen ásanas photo file by a new one with higher definition, we inserted more varied photos, we revised the text, we added footnotes, we included more information and instructions wherever there was available space. We enhanced a few paragraphs, we ameliorated some of the test replies, we updated the recommended bibliography, as well as the History of Yôga in Brazil, we chiseled some of the pages’ layout in order to make them more didactical or more aesthetic, we perfected the cover so as to make it more elegant and the title clearer, and, finally, we couldn’t help adding 30 new pages. Tratado de Yôga has been commended by the Chairman of the Yôga Federation of India, M. S. Viswanath, who stated: “This book is the monumental contribution to this century’s Yôga and the most priceless gift to the forthcoming’s one”. The book includes also the statements of several Ambassadors of India in Brazil and Portugal, together with the cultural support of those Embassies. For more information on Tratado de Yôga:

For more information on Ordem do Mérito das Índias Orientais:

For more information on writer, educator and philosopher DeRose:

With our most respectful salutations

Luís Lopes

Presidente da Ordem do Mérito das Índias Orientais

DeRose’s Historic and Trajectory

DeRose is an Honoris Causa Doctorate, Notorious Knowledge, Commendation-awarded by several cultural and humanitarian institutions, Counsellor of the Order of Parliament Members of Brazil, Counsellor of the Brazilian Art, Culture and History Academy and Counsellor of the Latin-American Art Academy. He has accomplished 50 years as an educator, of which 24 years were spent travelling to India. During his journeys he attended countless schools, monasteries and other cultural institutions, and in all of them he endeavored to master his knowledge on hindu philosophy. Here is a brief overview of his career trajectory:

1960: He began teaching in a respectful philosophical society.

1964: He founded the Instituto Brasileiro de Yôga.

1969: He published his first book (Prontuário de Yôga Antigo), which was belauded by Ravi Shankar himself, by Master Chiang Sing and by other reputed authorities.

1975: Already consecrated as a truthful teacher, he raised the necessary support to found União Nacional de Yôga (Uni-Yôga), the first institution to congregate teachers and schools of all types of Yôga, without discrimination. It was União Nacional de Yôga who started the union, ethics and mutual respect movement among the professionals in that teaching area. Since then, the institution has grown widely and today has hundreds of schools in just about the whole of Brazil, and teachers in Argentina, Chile, Portugal, Spain, France, United Kingdom, Scotland, Germany, Italy, Hawai, Indonesia, Canada, U.S.A., Australia and other countries.

1978: He led the campaign to create and promote the first bill to regulate the Yôga teacher professional status, which set in motion a few heated and lively debates across the country. From the 70s on, he introduced the University Extension Courses to form Yôga teachers in almost all Federal, State and Catholic Universities.

1980: He started administering courses in Indian territory and giving classes to Yôga teachers in Europe.

1982: He put together and conducted the First Brazilian Yôga Congress. Still in 82 he released the first teacher-orientation book, the Guia do Instrutor de Yôga, and the first translation of Pátañjali’s Yôga Sútra ever made by a Brazilian Yôga teacher. Yôga Sútra is the most relevant book on Classic Yôga.

Unfortunately, the more Prof. DeRose stood out, the more he became the target of a merciless persecution made by those who felt harmed by his clarification campaign.

1994: When accomplishing 20 years of travelling to India, he founded the First Yôga University of Brazil and the International Yôga University in Portugal.

1997: He launched the foundations of the Federal Yôga Council and the National Union of Yôga Teaching Professionals.

2000: He celebrated his 40th anniversary as a reputed Yôga teacher and researcher. In the subsequent years, as follows, he was awarded many honorary titles by several cultural and humanitarian institutions.

2001 and 2002: Master in Yôga and Honoris Causa doctorate (Notorious knowledge in Yôga / non-academic) by FATEA – Faculdades Integradas Teresa d’Ávila (SP), by Universidade Lusófona de Lisboa (Portugal), by Universidade do Porto (Portugal), by Universidade de Cruz Alta (RS), by Universidade Estácio de Sá (MG), by Faculdades Integradas Coração de Jesus (SP) and by the Curitiba City Hall (PR). Commendation of the Ordem do Mérito de Educação e Integração by the Sociedade Brasileira de Educação e Integração.

2003: Commendation award by the Brazilian Academy of Art, Culture and History.

2004: Knight’s degree, by the Ordem dos Nobres Cavaleiros de São Paulo, acknowledged by the Commander-in-Chief of the Nineth of July Cavalry Regiment, of the São Paulo State Military Police.

2006: Tiradentes Medal by the Legislative Assembly of the Rio de Janeiro State. Peace Medal, by ONU Brazil. Honoris Causa doctorate by the Câmara Brasileira de Cultura, by Universidade Livre da Potencialidade Humana and by several other cultural institutions. Historical and Cultural Merit Diploma (Grand Officer degree). He was also appointed as Counsellor of the Order of Parliament Members of Brazil.

2007: Honorary Associate Member of the Rotary Club.

Paul Harris’ Medal of the Rotary Foundation (Rotary International). International Medal of the United Nations and American States Veterans. Academic Cross by the Federação das Academias de Letras e Artes do Estado de São Paulo “for meritory and uplifting actions on behalf of the Nation’s development”. 30th January: Moção de Votos de Júbilo e Congratulações by the São Paulo City Hall (RDS 3059/2006). 27th March: Voto de Louvor e Congratulações by the Paraná State Legislative Assembly “for relevant services rendered”. December: Marshal Falconière’s Medal.

2008: Láurea D. João VI, included in the celebration of the 200 years of the Harbour Opening. 18th February (considered as Yôga Day by state law in thirteen Brazilian states) Title of São Paulo’s Citizen, by the São Paulo City Hall. March: Omnium Horarum Homo Diploma of the Civil Defense, attributed by the governor of the São Paulo State, José Serra, “for his commitment towards the humanitarian cause”. Peace Cross of the II World War Veterans. Merit Medal of the Brazilian Expeditionary Corps. MMDC Medal by the Commander in Chief of the São Paulo State’s Military Police. Medal of the Bicentenary of the Independence Dragons of the Brazilian Army. Union’s Military Justice Medal. November 2008: Appointed Grand Master of the Ordem do Mérito das Índias Orientais, Portugal. Appointed as Cultural Attaché of the Université de Yôga de Paris, France. 2nd December: Medal attributed by the São Paulo Press Association, in view of his initiatives in social and humanitarian causes. 4th December: Sentinelas da Paz Medal, by the UNO Blue Berret Corps from Joinville, Santa Catarina. 5th December: Social and Cultural Recognition Cross, at the São Paulo City Hall. 9th December: Military House Medal, by the Civil Defense, at the Government Palace, in view of his participation in the various Clothing Campaigns organized by the São Paulo State and for his assistance in gathering resources to help the homeless after the Santa Catarina tragedy. 22nd December: an additional Recognition Diploma of the Civil Defense, at the Government Palace.

2009: January: Diploma of the Amigo da Base de Administração e Apoio do Ibirapuera, of the Brazilian Army. D. João VI Collar, by the Judicial Power, Military Justice. Attestato di Riconoscimento, by the Accademia del Fiorino di Arti, Lettere, Scienze, Lavoro e Spetaccolo, Italy. Marshal Deodoro da Fonseca’s Collar, by the Brazilian government, on the occasion of the celebration of the 120 years of the Brazilian Republic and national flag implementation. Medal by the Ordem dos Advogados do Brasil. Emeritus Federal Counsellor Diploma, Brazilian government award Grand-Collar by the Sociedade Brasileira de Heráldica, on the occasion of DeRose’s 50 year mastership.

DeRose’ anniversary date, 18th February, was adopted by thirteen Brazilian states and established, by state law, as Yôga Day. Those states are: São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Paraná, Santa Catarina, Rio Grande do Sul, Minas Gerais, Bahia, Mato Grosso, Mato Grosso do Sul, Pará, Goiás, Piauí, Ceará, and also the Federal District.

Currently, writer and philosopher DeRose celebrates his 25 book publishing, in several countries and with over one million copies sold. His anti-commercialist posture has attained something never before accomplished by an author with their editor: the liberty to allow free internet download of several of his books in Portuguese, Spanish, German and Italian, free of charge MP3 of his Yôga practice CDs and tens of webclasses, also for free, at the Uni-Yôga site:, which doesn’t sell anything whatsoever. All of these were historical precedents, which made DeRose the most quoted and, undoubtedly, the most important Brazilian Master of Yôga, for the tireless energy he uses in promoting Yôga for the last 50 years, in books, newspapers, magazines, radio, television, conferences, courses, trips and new teachers’ training. He has formed over 6.000 good Yôga teachers and has helped create thousands of Yôga centres, professional associations, Yôga Federations, Confederations and Unions. As of today, his work has spread throughout Argentina, Chile, Portugal, Spain, France, United Kingdom, Scotland, Germany, Italy, Hawai, Indonesia, U.S.A., Canada, Australia, etc. DeRose is supported by an expressive number of cultural, academic, humanitarian, military and governmental institutions, who recognize the value of his work and made him the world’s most decorated Master of Yôga with medals, titles and commendations. Notwithstanding, he always states:

“The honors I am awarded from time to time by the Brazilian Army, the Legislative Assembly, the State government, the City Hall, the Military Police, the Civil Defense, the São Paulo Press Association, the Rotary, the Brazilian Chamber of Culture, the Order of the Parliament Members of Brazil and by other cultural and humanitarian institutions, are demonstrations of the respect paid by society to Yôga and to all professionals in this area. So being, it is my wish to share with you the merit of this recognition. Publicizing these tributes and commendations is not justified by personal vanity. It is a good thing that these award solemnities take place, because the public opinion, our teachers, our students and their relatives understand that there are strong and credible institutions that support us and that acknowledge the value of the work we have been carrying out on behalf of youth, the nation and mankind”.

You can see the institutional site here: [''] And one site in ennglish: [] —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I accept these tributes, because they do not serve to inflate one’s ego, but their purpose is the recognition of Yôga by society and by the institutions. It is Yôga which is being commended”. --OrdemMeritoIndiasOrientais (talk) 09:06, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Name of article[edit]

How about just his name, or maybe DeRose if that is indeed how he's generally referred, per WP:TITLE? --Ronz (talk) 17:06, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

@Yngvadottir:, @Dcambria:, @Pacifici2010:. I'm going ahead with the move if no one responds. --Ronz (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Sounds good to me; I see it was moved back to "Professor" with an invalid reason. I share your feeling that full name would be better than just DeRose but that that would be better than an honorific. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:08, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
DeRose is a disambiguation page, so we can't move it there.
I'm not familiar enough with titling to know what's best to do when no independent English sources are available. Luis DeRose, DeRose (DeRose Method), DeRose (yogi), and DeRose (yoga teacher) seem worth considering. I'm going to ask on WP:TITLE. --Ronz (talk) 19:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
If we have no good English language sources, using good sources in other languages is perfectly acceptable. Other languages are not, by default, unreliable. If we have no sources in other languages, then we have no sources and the article should be deleted. What do good sources in his native language call him? And if they aren't good sources, then we don't really care, do we... --Jayron32 20:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
@Ronz:There is an ebook in Amazon, maybe it can help: DeRose Method Quality of Life[1] --Dcambria (talk) 22:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
@Ronz:I agree about moving to DeRose (DeRose Method), fits better than Master DeRose in my opinion... Sources in portuguese calls him Commendator DeRose, DeRose (writer). In his books, he signs just as DeRose.
Sounds good to me. --Ronz (talk) 01:48, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Any independent, reliable sources at all?[edit]

I'm unable to find any in English, and there are none in the article (bunch of dead links in the article though). If I recall, there had been more references in the article in the past. --Ronz (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

More worryingly it's not very easy to find reliable sources in Portuguese either. Apart from adverts for "Professor DeRose" cannot find any reputable 3rd party sources. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:48, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

A website offering DeRose's mentoring service.

Tons of media coverage with DeRose: Brazilian interview with DeRose in 2017: Human relations make the difference (Portuguese language interview)

Here is a list of media coverage in the United States from 2017 covering the work of the methodology he founded: increase emotional intelligence supercharge your success Aspiring Gentleman Brain Hackers: enhance mental performance — Preceding unsigned comment added by VillagePeople108 (talkcontribs) 22:40, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

None of those are independent and reliable at all. They're press releases, sometimes warmed-over a bit, and snippets from press releases. --Ronz (talk) 00:58, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 11 January 2017[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved to "DeRose (yoga teacher)". DrKay (talk) 16:40, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Master DeRose → ? – Page keeps being moved back and forth. If there is no consensus on a new title, then it should remain at its original title. DrKay (talk) 22:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Support removal of "Master" as immediate priority that needs to be done ASAP per WP:HONORIFIC even if there's no consensus on where it goes to. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:42, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
As a default I would suggest per Tim Miller (yoga teacher) that DeRose (yoga teacher) be the most normal title. Then the work can commence in reducing this to a sourced BLP. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:50, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
  • I find these "?" proposals to be highly annoying. Why can't nom make an actual proposal, backed up by actual rationale and some context/history? Dicklyon (talk) 03:12, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
@DrKay: Dicklyon is right really, it's usual to propose something and then state if there are alternatives. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:49, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
That's not an administrator's job in my opinion. DrKay (talk) 16:40, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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It is my opinion that it should be DeRose (DeROSE Method founder) because DeRose acknowledges himself that he no longer works with Yôga. The "yoga teacher" reference does not apply to him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VillagePeople108 (talkcontribs) 22:46, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

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If someone can identify some independent, reliable sources, we could build an article around them rather than the current advertisement we currently have. Otherwise I think it would be best to stub the article to something that doesn't violate BLP, NOT, and POV. --Ronz (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Ronz I fully endorse stubbing. I have just removed a whole lot of cruft in the Portuguese version — there is so little else than it being a yoga instruction method that there was a lengthy part about whether the DeRose schools are a franchise; the same go with trying to explain the self-inflicted difficulties arising from having opted for calling it yoga (in Portuguese) to differentiate from the traditional ioga .... is short, really grabbing at straws to fill the page with pulp. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 22:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Stubbed. --Ronz (talk) 00:56, 13 September 2018 (UTC)