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Software by the Debian project[edit]
Being a Linux distribution Debian consists almost entirely of free and open-source software written by 3rd parties. But some software is being developed by Debian, e.g. deb (file format), the Debian installer, Advanced Packaging Tool, and maybe some other stuff. Not sure whether this Debian-own software should get an own section. User:ScotXWt@lk 18:41, 29 August 2016
"Debian 6.0.5 Squeeze" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Debian 6.0.5 Squeeze. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Jason Quinn (talk) 12:38, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Debian being a Unix-like operating system[edit]
Jchap1590 Yes, only the Linux kernel is officially supported, but this does not change the fact that the Debian project provides a version of the operating system with another kernel. To say that Debian is "Linux distribution" is FALSE not even misleading. Please don't change "Unix-like operating system" by "Linux distribution". Only having the Linux kernel officially supported doesn't change anything about that. --109.10.155.228 (talk) 11:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
cite your sources stating that Debian is "Unix-like" and STOP editing the article until the talk topic is resolved. offering an unofficial port using the FreeBSD Kernel does not mean it's Unix-like.
- From wiki.debian.org: "Debian uses the Linux kernel (the kernel is the core of an OS), but most of the basic OS tools come from the GNU project. Thus we refer to Debian as a Debian GNU/Linux operating system, giving credit to all its originators."
- From DistroWatch: "Debian ... the world's largest Linux distribution." Jchap1590 (talk) 16:21, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Wang, K. C. (2018). Systems Programming in Unix/Linux. Springer. p. 9. ISBN 978-3-319-92429-8.
Linux [...] is a Unix-like system.
Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:02, 11 September 2019 (UTC) - Following on this edit, which focuses more tightly on Debian: McKusick, Marshall Kirk; Neville-Neil, George V.; Watson, Robert N. M. (2014). The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System. Addison Wesley. p. xxi, at UNIX-like Systems. ISBN 978-0-321-96897-5. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:40, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
This discussion is about what value to specify for the family parameter for the {{Infobox OS}} template which is used by this article. I note that the template documentation for that parameter describes that parameter as follows:
The name of the family of operating systems that this version is a part of. Examples include 'Microsoft Windows', 'Unix-like' and 'Mac OS'; 'Linux' and 'Mac OS X' are not OS families
Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:33, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Proposal
I propose:
- that the family parameter in the infobox be set to Unix-like, wikilinked to that wikipedia article;
- that this be footnoted with <ref>s citing the two book citations I suggested above.
Are there any objections to this? Particularly, Jchap1590, do you have objection to this? If there are objections, please explain and justify the reasons for these objections added: citing reliable supporting sources. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 12:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Well, going by the articles for Arch Linux, Deepin, Fedora, Gentoo and Linux Mint as examples, they all list the OS Family as "Linux." other Linux Distributions list "Unix-like" and at least one (KDE neon) lists "Linux (Unix-like)." I think if we want to call Debian Unix-like, then we have to consistently call them all Unix-like. personally, I like KDE neon's verbiage the most. Jchap1590 (talk) 20:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- I have raised that for discussion at Template talk:Infobox OS#OS family. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:55, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Raspberry Pi software (Raspbian)[edit]
Please can the Raspbian software be mentioned in this article, as it is a major branch off Debian.
91.74.26.182 (talk) 10:39, 25 March 2020 (UTC) 25.3.2020
- I m not a regular editor of this article but I see it mentioned, a;ong with numerous others, at List of Linux distributions#Debian-based, which is linked as a
{{main article}}in the Derivatives and flavors section of this article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 13:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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