Talk:Deepak Chopra

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Adding category Criticism and moving that part from main article[edit]

Move this section from top and create a subsection at 2.9 called 'Criticism':

The ideas Chopra promotes have been regularly criticized by medical and scientific professionals as pseudoscience.[17][18][19][20] This criticism has been described as ranging "from dismissive [to] damning".[17] For example, Robert Carroll states Chopra attempts to integrate Ayurveda with quantum mechanics to justify his teachings.[21] Chopra argues that what he calls "quantum healing" cures any manner of ailments, including cancer, through effects that he claims are literally based on the same principles as quantum mechanics.[15] This has led physicists to object to his use of the term quantum in reference to medical conditions and the human body.[15] His treatments generally elicit nothing but a placebo response,[6] and have drawn criticism that the unwarranted claims made for them may raise "false hope" and lure sick people away from legitimate medical treatments.[17] He is placed by David Gorski among the "quacks", "cranks" and "purveyors of woo", and described as "arrogantly obstinate".[22] Richard Dawkins has said that Chopra uses "quantum jargon as plausible-sounding hocus pocus".[23] Omkar khalipe (talk) 02:19, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Your proposal is inappropriate on many levels, violating WP:LEDE and WP:STRUCTURE to start. --Ronz (talk) 15:54, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Funnily enough that very change was later made, and edit warred over, by another new account,[1] which had put in some exceedingly trivial edits, seemingly to achieve autoconfirmed status. I have inquired of a CU. Bishonen | talk 17:39, 25 March 2018 (UTC).
On a closer look, never mind bothering a CU. Sock and master blocked per WP:DUCK. Bishonen | talk 18:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC).
Well the top part is pretty bloated, could use an update if you ask me. EricAhlqvistScott (talk) 10:54, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
I suggest reviewing past discussions and making a new proposal based on a good understanding of applicable policies and the concerns previously brought up on how to best trim the lede. --Ronz (talk) 16:07, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
After reviewing the references in the criticism section I removed one as blogs should not be used for living persons. Added dubious tags to two others as they don't seem to align with what's stated. EricAhlqvistScott (talk) 07:48, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
I've restored it, because I believe this has been discussed at length. Have you figured out how to use the search functionality of this page to find previous discussions? --Ronz (talk) 21:41, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Dubious[edit]

The criticism does not fit with neutrality standards.
- Removed reference to blogger. Read the about him page @ https://respectfulinsolence.com/who-is-orac/. Hardly a valid source for a living person.
- Added Dubious tags on two references that don't match up with their claim, let's discuss. EricAhlqvistScott (talk) 20:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

"Neutrality standards" probably don't mean what you think they do. It's a reliable source for skeptical viewpoints, especially when it comes to questionable medical claims outside regular evidence-based medicine.
Have you reviewed the past discussions yet? --Ronz (talk) 21:44, 4 April 2018 (UTC)