Talk:Deus Ex: Invisible War characters

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Fantastic job, KaiSeun! This needed cleaning up. :)--Codenamecuckoo 10:28, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Rewrite[edit]

So far, I've done a half-assed job to put evidence behind the claims made. I've also eliminated some obvious POV since readers are supposed to form an opinion of the characters, even though they may do certain things. If someone could write more concisely than I can, please go ahead. I also moved the page from Dr. Lelia Nassif to here, as much of it was a copy anyways. I'll put redirects on those page. I'll continue working on this when I get some more time, but currently, I need to rest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaiSeun (talkcontribs) [1]

I suggest a merger[edit]

We need to merge them into one article - SGCommand

Reasons? They are two different games... —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaiSeun (talkcontribs) [2]
  • Phahaps the other article shold be called, "List of Deus Ex Universe caracters" to simplify things - SGCommand
The games are very different and while both include some of the same characters, the characters are placed in very different roles and it would be confusing if it was all on the same list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.23.206 (talkcontribs) [3]
I agree, this is a bad idea. IMO they need to remain separate, firstly because a user researching Deus Ex before starting to play Invisible War would encounter spoilers, also because they are two different games, different genres and set many years apart. 81.132.120.88 19:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I second the above statement. If I'm wanting to find out about Deux Ex characters I'm not interested in reading about Deus Ex Invisible War characters. Keep them separate. 23skidoo 23:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree, no merger. Majestic122 (talk) 21:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Inaccurate criticism?[edit]

(about Lin-May Chen) "She is said to be the illegitimate daughter of Maggie Chow and Max Chen. This, however, may present problems with the story of Deus Ex- with the player practically forced to kill Maggie Chow in the confrontation at VersaLife, and JC Denton revealing to Max Chen that she had been working for the Illuminati and was the person who killed the previous leader of the Red Arrow Triad. This, combined with her efforts to begin a war between the Red Arrow and the Luminous Path, caused both Max Chen and Gordon Quick to despise her quite heatedly. She grew up in post-Collapse Hong Kong, and was one of Her Holiness' first disciples when The Order church was formed. Due to her parents' involvement with MJ-12, Chen vowed never to dedicate her life to a dubious or deceitful cause, and fervently believes The Order's ideals are noble."

Is there a reason why Lin-May couldn't have been born just before JC showed up in Hong Kong? It would, in fact, make sense that Maggie was romantically involved with Max long before JC appeared and assasinated the previous Red Arrow Triad leader to put Max in a position of power, where she could control him. --Doug (talk) 13:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Response[edit]

Lin May was born before JC arrived in Hong Kong. In the Luminous Path Compound Gordon Quick wrote in his journal that he was in love with Max Chens daughter. This is probably Lin May.

Also I agree with 23skidoo. The two games should be kept seperate. It would be akin in my opinion to merging Killzone with Halo.

Standard Security Corporation[edit]

Could someone do an article on the SSC. I have to go.

Removal of Organizations section[edit]

Just in case anyone wants to comment on it, I have removed the "Organizations" section of this page. Not only did this section make the page too long, it had nothing to do with the topic of "Deus Ex: Invisible War characters" and was almost completely redundant to the seperate organization pages that already exist. Any prose that wasn't redundant and worth keeping I have transferred to their respective pages (the Tarsus Academy entry is under ApostleCorp and SSC was too small to bother with at this point). -- Grandpafootsoldier 08:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

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Saman's accent[edit]

Where is it suppposed to be from? Is there a region of the United States where people sound like that, or was it just a really bad attempt at Britishness? Leushenko (talk) 19:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Eh, who knows. TBH, I don't think we can assess this with out it wandering into OR, unless someone actually has a source on the characters origin...Scanna (talk) 02:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

The alleged joke ending[edit]

One of the endings listed on the main Deus Ex 2 page is a joke ending which contains an Omar rap party. An Omar character named "Steamy Dinkums" is listed here as participating in this ending. However, I don't believe such an ending exists. A few Google searches came up with nothing except Wikipedia itself and a game thread referring to this page. Furthermore, the game only has Bink video files for the standard four endings.

Uncle Batman (talk) 15:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

The fifth ending is a playable level, not a video. It's a dance party at Vox but not limited to the Omar; pretty much all the important characters are there. It is definitely real, and serves as a location for developer quotes and commentary. Can't remember whether there was a Steamy Dinkums there, but it sounds like the right style of humour. Leushenko (talk) 00:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)