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Criticism?[edit]

I'm surprised this article does not have a "Criticism" section, common to most other technology-related articles. I've heard anecdotal arguments that DevOps dilutes the specific skills of many engineers and teams, for example, and its implementation without defining responsibilities can cause organizational friction and lower productivity. Example - https://dzone.com/articles/devops-isnt-killing-developers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.168.112.98 (talk) 19:48, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Are you serious? There is no critism to be heard. This is why the article has protected status. No cult here. Move along. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.208.102 (talk) 11:47, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Agile represents a change in thinking, whereas DevOps actually implements organizational cultural change.[15][edit]

This does not make sense and needs to be reviewed with a close reading of the source. A change in thinking is cultural change.

The article is in IT management speak, and needs to define terms to meet the needs of the general wikipedia audience.


on DevOps as a job title[edit]

I think this topic can be a subsection on it's own because it's probably the #2 (#1 being the exact definition of DevOps) DevOps-related issue. That said, I'm relatively new to wikipedia editing, so I'm not sure how historically you handle grey areas for an evolving topic. I'm not even sure if this topic is evolving in 2017 - maybe it has settled? Adam Jacob has said he's backed off caring about the issue. I'd rather cite someone like that that random internet publishers who want views. Sp00nfeeder (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:03, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

My (personal, unsourced) sense is that the industry trend is away from having DevOps as a specific job title, and towards having it as a team-wide philosophy. However, until I'm done editing the IT Operations article, it's very difficult for me to define DevOps well enough to improve this article. I've added an equivocal section; hopefully better references will be added to it. Power~enwiki (talk) 01:04, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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DevOps or Devops ?[edit]

I came here to Wikipedia to look for a definitive answer. I first reviewed Portmanteau and List_of_portmanteaus and I did not see a single example of a portmanteau that has this sort of camelcase format. I thought I was validated in my understanding that the proper spelling is "devops". The list of List_of_portmanteaus it is listed under section Internet and computing as "devops"

I click the link and I'm brought to here where the page is named "DevOps". What the heck ?

Gbonk (talk) 00:41, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

DevOps is near universal across the literature. WP will of course apply its dogmmatic naming rules and change this to "Devops" before long, despite any external sourcing. See PaaS, SaaS et al. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:14, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

A useless statistic?[edit]

"However, a study released in January 2017 by F5 of almost 2,200 IT executives and industry professionals found that only one in five surveyed think DevOps had a strategic impact on their organization despite rise in usage."

Does this mean anything at all? Maybe the four in five who found it had no significant impact were the ones who had done almost nothing with these ideas. We in fact know of the giant acceleration in release rates being achieved by places like Amazon and Netflix using these principles. Is it really significant that the CIO of Stodgy Old Dinosaur Corporation sees no benefit in the ideas? GeneCallahan (talk) 02:39, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

DevOps as a job title[edit]

Even as a software developer, I don't understand what the section wants to explain about DevOps as a job title. It is clearly a topic worth mentioning but I don't see how the article answers the question what such job title represents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB05:4AE:F500:1091:75DE:9C49:FBF6 (talk) 07:23, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Why is this have a NPV flag?[edit]

"This article contains content that is written like an advertisement. Please help improve it by removing promotional content and inappropriate external links, and by adding encyclopedic content written from a neutral point of view. (May 2018) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)"

Came to talk section to find an explanation for the tag, but can't find one. Reading the article as it is at the moment, I would not consider this to be written like an advertisement. It might need better sourcing or some criticisms, but not sure what or where. Can anyone explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.154.213.183 (talk) 03:03, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Looking it over, it seems that some of the content might be unnecessary and serve primarily to promote DevOps, but as a non-expert, it's hard for me to say for sure. I'd ask someone at WikiProject Software what they think. Compassionate727 (T·C) 14:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)