Talk:Development of the Old Testament canon
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The case against the Apocrypha is overstated
I have been working Michael Barber's blog entry into this article. However, I am concerned that Barber's position is only one POV and is a minority viewpoint. I wanted to ask others for their opinion regarding this material and how best to present it in an NPOV way. Among other questions, I'm wondering if this material should be presented in this article or in the Deuterocanonical books article.
--Richard 08:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
I think the quote "ascertain whether or not Jesus quoted from the MT or the LXX" should be accompanied by a definition of "MT" and "LXX"
--Acaudel 011:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Who is Michael Barber?
Who is Michael Barber and why is he considered a relevant authority on this subject? The whole section titled "Jesus" reads as if it's out of place in this article and assumes the reader knows who Michael Barber is.
Timing of changes to printed Bibles
"However, Anglican and Lutheran Bibles usually still contained these books until the 20th century, while Calvinist Bibles did not."
Did Calvinist Bibles ever contain the deuterocanonical books? If so, when were they first commonly omitted?
When exactly did Anglican and Lutheran Bibles start to omit the deuterocanonicals? Which editions or publishers? When did the practice become commonplace?
This article is being evaluated as part of clean up from Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20100114, an investigation that was started when it was discovered that a contributor had repeatedly copy-pasted content into Wikipedia.
I had hoped to easily extricate copied content from this article, but I'm afraid that's not going to be easy, as it seems to be liberally scattered throughout. The material was copied from: http://infidels.org/library/modern/gerald_larue/otll/chap31.html. It has been modified, but much remains.
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- Are you sure it wasn't the other way around, that the website you cite copied the material from this wikipedia article? This has been a long standing wikipedia article, it's a shame that it now has two rather large and significant sections that have been just section deleted. There's little incentive for editors to add content to wikipedia when a new editor can just come in without reaching consensus and just delete whole sections of content. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:21, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Luther and Trent
I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how Luther could be said to "dissent" from something when his action/choice preceded that which he is said to have dissented from. I'd say the sentence/section needs re-writing. Dismalscholar (talk) 06:37, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- Catholics claim the canon was already settled by Augustine and Trent just "reaffirmed" it, thus Luther dissented from the already existing canon while Protestants claim the canon was still in dispute thus Luther "asserted" the Lutheran Canon while Trent later rejected his canon. I hope that explains things. There are two pov's here, Catholic/Orthodox and Protestant and the article should really explain both instead of trying to merge them. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 08:10, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Sources for future article expansion
This article may have started from a crib of the EB 11 article, which was a gutting of the much more thorough EB 9 article:
- "Canon", Encyclopædia Britannica, 9th ed., Vol. V, New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1878, p. 1–15.
- "Canon", Encyclopædia Britannica, 11th ed., Vol. V, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1911, pp. 190–191.
There's obviously more modern scholarship, but there might be lines that were simply copied that should be attributed and the EB 9 article is a good source for the traditional views in the 19th century, based on the surviving textual resources. See also the EB 11's article on the Bible, which has detailed sections on the canon:
- "Bible", Encyclopædia Britannica, 11th ed., Vol. III, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1911, pp. 849–894.
— LlywelynII 14:53, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
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