Talk:Devil's Kettle

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Is it really necessary to have a separate article for this? I'd think it could be covered just fine in the Judge Magney article. This could redirect to that one. Rufus Sarsaparilla 00:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, there are two reasons I made this article. First, when I searched Wikipedia for it, I couldn't find any information about this formation (a redirect would solve this nicely). Secondly, I know there have been many different attempts to figure out where the water in Devil's Kettle goes, and I was really hoping that the information about that would appear here. I think that's a little more detail than is likely to appear in an article about the park as a whole, but I may be wrong.
Omnifarious 02:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the information about the water could be summarized nicely in the park article and would help to make it more substantial. Rufus Sarsaparilla 16:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and merge this article with the Judge Magney article and redirect from here. I think with the small amount of content, this makes sense. If the Devil's Kettle section ever grows long enough to merit its own page, it will be easy enough to split back out later. Scott Carpenter 02:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Judge C. Magney and the Devils kettle have seperate notability, and certain pages already extant link to both the Devil's kettle and Judge Magney in the same sentance, which would be strange to anyone trying to follow the links and ending up in the same place. Thanatosimii 03:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Another possibility is you could have fixed those pages. But it's fair enough that some discussion should precede a merge, and while I may sound bitter in my comment on the Judge Magney discussion page, I'll get over it and recognize that people are going to have different viewpoints on how much discussion is necessary for short, nascent articles. Scott Carpenter 04:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I may have sounded such as well, however I am concerned about this merge. You see, The Devil's Kettle is notable on its own, not as a part of Judge C. R. Magney State Park. If anything, the latter should be merged into the former, since more will look for the Kettle than the Park. However, both articles can be expanded, and If that's what it's going to take to convince people to keep these apart, I am willing to get to work on that. Thanatosimii 04:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good. Peace, brother. :-) I just tinker around here on Wikipedia and I shouldn't get so edgy when people who do more of it correct me. And I'm happy to see the Magney article expanded. I hope with the Kettle article we can get the facts right on where that water goes. It's an interesting story that it was a mystery at one time, but from what I've read the answer is not so exciting. Scott Carpenter 04:26, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
The problem is finding those bothersome source things. ;) Thanatosimii 07:18, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the merge into the park article. Both are short. A merger would not make it any harder to find "Devil's Kettle" since redirects would take care of that. Jonathunder 00:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm still in favor of merging. Scott Carpenter 22:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I propose we have a section in the park article devoted to Devil's Kettle, and turn this into a redirect to that. Jonathunder 22:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'm still opposed in principle, but I suppose the immediate circumstances merit merging. Go for it. Thanatosimii 00:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully, you will be less opposed after seeing the results: Devil's Kettle is a separate section in the park article, making for one more complete article rather than two very short ones. If eventually the section on the Devil's Kettle becomes lengthy, it will be easy enough to make it an article on its own again. Jonathunder 15:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)