Talk:Dieter Rams

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Rams and Ive[edit]

While I think it is true, I don't think it is appropriate to say "Rams' designs have been very influential on Jonathan Ive's" designs. There is only a direct connection between the iPhone calc and Rams calculator, and even then you can't say it was done by Ive. I'm going to add "speculated" until an explicit link between the two is made. Thoughts? aerotheque (talk) 07:15, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Sometimes certain ideas are in the air and based on universal human understanding of forms and feelings. It could theoretically be true that Jonathan Ive had by accident the same idea as Rams, yet not knowing of Ram's product. I say "theoretically" in a scientific sense. Therefore, in a scientific, "no original research" environment I suggest to even take any relationship with Apple off the page since it's not proven. The word "speculated" was there and I changed it to "obvious" to put the article into that direction. Because as the guide lines for non original research state: "...this includes speculation...". I know that the word "obvious" can be as much debated and I personally would like to see links to Apple as it seems just very obvious that Mr. Ive was influenced, but we just don't really know. Is there a published interview out there where Mr. Ive admits that he copied or got influenced by Rams or Braun? That would be great and helpful to undermine the validity of that paragraph. Geraldaine (talk) 09:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I am sure there are many articles that speculate on the link, but there must also be dozens of famous designers likewise influenced by Rams. Is it that important? I guess the notability of Apple makes it so.... but anyway I removed the calculator reference. It's such a trivial homage, not itself aligning with his own principles and not produced by a department under Ive in any case.+|||||||||||||||||||||||||+ (talk) 12:39, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

thin[edit]

This article needs more. BingoDingo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:13, 15 July 2010 (UTC).

links[edit]

f.y.i., the link to the article at icon magazine only links to their front page and not to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjaminbudde (talkcontribs) 05:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

This site looks good. It's commercial, but the items sold are period pieces and they keep the page up after the item is sold. http://www.dasprogramm.org/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.164.210.108 (talk) 07:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Lead section[edit]

I grew the lead section a little bit today, and I wonder whether the "lead too short" template (dated October 2013) can now be erased. Chimin 07 (talk) 02:03, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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