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The article discusses some general elements about digital intermediate, but does not say anything about aspect ratios. While in the past changing the aspect ratio consumed a lot of time and money in the laboratory, digital intermediate is a replacement of which the process is a lot easier and a cheaper. I think it would be very useful if the process of changing the aspect ratio with digital intermediate would be thoroughly explained throughout the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koen534 (talkcontribs) 15:54, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Untitled[edit]

This article needs some technical explanations. What's all that stuff about 2K and 4K resolution? ··gracefool | 11:55, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

External link?[edit]

I've broken the external links into a "service provider" and "equipment provider" list. Neither this is anywhere near complete, should we just remove all these links?--Onejaguar 00:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

  • do we really need either list?

Surrealroad (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


Anon editor 209.164.32.131 (talk · contribs) added the following external link, http://www.digitalintermediates.com. Other recently added links from this IP have been borderline spam, or at least a low quality links. Could someone more knowledgable about digital intermediates please investigate. BlankVerse 13:57, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Milestone films[edit]

I believe the independet film Urbania (2000) was a 16mm->35mm DI that was done right before O' Brother.. at Cinesite, but I didn't want to mention it as a landmark becuase I believe other independet feature-length projects were done before this, most likely in Europe. Anyone know? --Onejaguar 00:37, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Propose adding band of brothers as this was the first production to utilize the full film frame and provide a full resolution non-linear previewing facility. Episode 2 was also printed to 35mm film. Surrealroad (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace was shot in 35mm (as said in the DVD commentary), but scanned to add digital visual effects (the light sabers were rotoscoped for the last time). Saemikneu (talk) 00:18, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Digital Intermediate as an alternative to traditional photochemical color timing[edit]

I don't think DI should be discussed in relation to color timing, not telecine. That's what digital intermediate is... instead of doing a photochemical intermediate, you can work on the images in the digital domain. Telecine: Film --> video
DI: Film --> Data --> (various stages of) Film
... or Film --> Video --> (various stages of) Film Traditional color timing: Film --> (various stages of) Film

There are two significant advantages to DI (and IMO it bears pointing out):

A- Creative advantages. DI allows digital manipulation of the image, allowing the colorist to establish a distinct 'look' to alter the mood and feel of the film. It is the visual counterpart to the musical scoring a film.
B- Technical advantages. DI can replace two photochemical generations of a film with a digital generation. (My knowledge here is sketchy.)

Minor advantages:
A- Greater latitude in color correction allows for greater inconsistencies in the captured image, since this can be corrected through digital color correction. This allows productions to shoot longer days.
B- Photochemical alternations like bleach bypass can be emulated via DI and undone, should the creatives change their minds.

The main disadvantage to DI is cost. However, this cost is reduced when there are a large number of VFX shots (since those shots have to be scanned anyways).

Color Management[edit]

In traditional color timing, there was much guesswork involved in predicting the color of the final release print. Devices like the Hazeltine color analyzer would provide an aid to the colorist, but the entire process was still mostly trial and error. Talented color timers would have a greater intuition for color and be more accurate in predicting the results of their adjustments.

In DI, this problem is solved by implementing a color management system, similar to how ICC-compatible color management systems is used for print work. DI solutions typically use 3D LUT solutions (i.e. Truelight) instead of ICC.

James Bond info not notable[edit]

Here is what I removed. Glennchan 06:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

  • 2006 - All 20 of the official James Bond movies are released on DVD as Ultimate Editions, both individually and all together in 'monster box' boxset form. As can be seen in the documentary on the Dr. No Ultimate Edition bonus disc, Lowry restored all the films by digitally scanning the original reels through 4K scanners, then, having restored the images with their suite of proprietary tools and adjusting the colour, the soundtrack for each film was also remastered in 5.1 (Dolby EX and DTS ES). The documentary also features a 'side-by-side' comparison of an original copy of Dr. No, with the restored version played alongside it, and the difference is immediately noticeable. The project took over two and a half years to complete, much longer than their 30-day project to restore the original Star Wars trilogy of movies for their boxset re-release. In one interview [1], John Lowry states that they required 'over 600 Apple computers with a combined storage capacity of 700 Terabytes', scanning over 42 miles of film at 4000x3000 pixels of resolution.

I don't get it[edit]

So, wait, what's the point of spending the money for the film and everything, and then scanning it on digital? Can't you just record the movie with an HD camera without all the hassle?

  • yes, but the digital intermediate process was specifically intended to relate to film post-production.

Surrealroad (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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As such, I removed the service company listing. Which was sort of insidious advertising with little educational/encyclopedic value anyways. Glennchan 06:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Description is misleading[edit]

The description for this topic places undue emphasis on the colour-correction part of the process, however this is not the case. A digital "intermediate" need not have any colour-correction at all, digital colour timing is a benefit of the process, perhaps even a motivating factor, but certainly not a requirement. Surrealroad (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Definition[edit]

Should it say "basically raping an image that already looked pretty decent"? I think not, but then what do i know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.75.137 (talk) 02:53, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

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