Talk:Diminished triad

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How is each kind of diminished chord notated? --Jlloganiii 04:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Requested audio[edit]

I have added an audio example to the article. Hyacinth (talk) 20:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


The article is perfect. But I was thinking about some works that employ remarkable diminished triad chord. Beethoven's String Quartet No. 9 in C major Op. 59 No. 3 "Razumovsky" starts with such a chord. The last movement of the "Appassionata" Sonata also comes from a transition on this chord. Of course, there must be inumerable examples, but there are some importante moments with this chord. --Leonardo T. de Oliveira (talk) 16:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Naming (article title)[edit]

please change this back to 'diminished triad', it looks silly —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

It does appear redundant. Hyacinth (talk) 15:32, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Hyacinth (talk) 00:04, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Diminished triad chordDiminished triad –The expression "triad chord" is redundant. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 00:10, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Comment Triad is a disambiguation page, so how is this redundant? (talk) 04:16, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
    • Reply The expression "diminished triad" only means one thing. "Diminished triad chord" is clumsy, kind of like "vegetarian banana". Hearfourmewesique (talk) 08:35, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I didn't see this discussion, but I moved the page. Hyacinth (talk) 00:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

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This article says Cmb5 is how to notate a diminished triad. What does the b stand for?? Georgia guy (talk) 12:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

C minor chord with a flat fifth ie C diminished — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:18, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
In other words the "b" means "flat." — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
See Template:Music. Hyacinth (talk) 00:05, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Merge: Leading-tone chord[edit]

"The quality of the leading-tone triad is diminished in both major and minor keys." Hyacinth (talk) 01:52, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Leading tone is a functional harmony related term. The variety of scales is not limited to major and minor keys, therefore leading-tone triad is not a subset of diminished chord. Cyberkid ua (talk) 18:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Table - Enharmonic Notes[edit]

The enharmonic notes, while nice for ease of reading, contradict the definition of triad. Triads are three-note chords built by stacking thirds. By definition, a Db diminished triad would be Db, Fb, Abb no matter how clumsy the double flats look. On the other hand, Db, E, G is not a Db diminished triad. (If anything, that would imply more a E diminished seventh missing the fifth). I suggest we remove the enharmonic spellings for this reason. Composers also would not have done this for the reasons listed.

If there is no response in a few days, I'll remove them myself. Devin.chaloux (chat) 03:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Just intonation ratio?[edit]

On 11 April 2011 (over three years ago), Hyacinth wrote:

"In just intonation, the diminished triad on vii [B-D-F] is tuned 135:162:160."

It still appears today. However this clearly is not possible, perhaps either the 160 or 162 being a typo for 192 instead.

While it's soon afterward stated that "45:54:64 is preferred," I'd argue that, based on the use of 5:6 pure minor thirds, 25:30:36 might be slightly more consonant, although the rules of just intonation appear to make it difficult to produce without making nasty harmonic compromises. I hope there's a solution that can answer my concern. -- Glenn L (talk) 08:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)