Talk:Disciplinary procedures

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Merge Declare the chair vacant into Disciplinary procedures[edit]

Either we should delete the "Declare the chair vacant" article, or after considerable cleanup, attempt to move what is left into Disciplinary procedures.

  • The first piece of information is that RONR doesn't allow this to be used against the regular presiding officer. This is not a great lead.
  • RONR only allows this in the limited use when the regular chairman is not presiding. That is quite different from removing someone from office which the rest of the article contemplates. Under RONR such an effort only moves the person who is currently presiding, not an office holder.
  • Under RONR there is no motion by the name, "Declare the chair vacant". The text in RONR places that phrase within quotes to indicate it is not the name of a motion. RONR states it the motion To Raise a question of privilege.
  • Then the next piece of information is that Demeter doesn't use this motion either.
  • We are halfway through the article stub and most of the information provided is that the motion doesn't exist or is not used. It makes one wonder what is the reason for this article?
  • The quote from Mason talks about removal and election of the presiding officer, but doesn't use the article's title phraseeither: "declare the chair vacant".

The examples provided are not pertinent or note-worthy.

  • The first example is about a 1910 newspaper clipping reporting on a dinner in Washington where Speaker Cannon was complaining about the treatment he received. Surely there are better sources or examples. [For the record, the motion was made on the house floor and promptly defeated.]
  • The final two examples use two opinion pieces as references - one a blog, and the other, a user posting.

Since this is a confusing and poorly cited article, if it cannot be brought up to standards, it might better serve to delete it at this time - and perhaps adding a section under Disciplinary procedures about removing an elected chairman. ~ Parlirules (talk) 04:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Strongly Agree Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Oppose declaring vacant is a recognized motion and while it is a (rare) example of disciplinary procedure there are many other kinds of disciplinary procedures. RJFJR (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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