Talk:Doctor Who (series 5)

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BARB URLs[edit]

All the BARB sources for viewing figures seem to have the second half cut off. Anyone know what the exact URLs should be?

Cheers, TFOWRpropaganda 17:09, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

The BARB site is an absolute nightmare, I assume you can get better data with a relevant subscription. Without it access to the form to get the results can be found at http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyTopProgrammes? - there appears to be no easy way of getting an url to the exact results you want though (or if there is, I have never found it). AlexanderJBateman (talk) 17:31, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Ah, thanks! (Pity, I hate paywalls...) Cheers, TFOWRpropaganda 17:34, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


Final Ratings[edit]

At the moment the list of ratings only show that of the BBC One broadcast, but with the exception of 1.3 'Victory of the Daleks' all episodes were simulcast on BBC HD and these got from 0.4 to 0.7 million extra viewers. I think these ratings should reflect the BBC One and BBC HD ratings together. For example, if there was no BBC HD channel the extra 0.5 million viewers of 'The Eleventh Hour' would have watched it on BBC One. I think, in situations like these, where a program is broadcast simultaneously on two channels, the combined ratings of both should be counted as the final ratings, and not just BBC One. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.142.135 (talk) 11:48, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

You are correct. I have not worked on this article very much at all, but the final ratings should reflect the totals of BBC One and BBC HD found on BARB and in each individual article. I have not checked to see if these are incorrect. Glimmer721 talk 00:41, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Suspected Copyright Violation removed[edit]

I've just removed the episode summaries as these were a direct copy of [1], which is clearly marked copyright 2010. I've haven't time now to look at the rest of the article, or restore the orginal summaries. Edgepedia (talk) 22:24, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Which came first, though? Sites do use our material quite often... Sceptre (talk) 22:32, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
WHAT? I wrote all of those myself! Not kidding! All by myself! Can I please put them back? What do I do? I wrote them like last month but I've never seen that site before, I swear, I wrote them all from the top of my head! I put the first summary here, 2-5 here, 6 and 7 here, 8-11 here, edits to 11 and full summary of 12 here, and the finale here. I know that's from October/November 2011 and that post SAYS it's from 2010 (that wasn't necessarily when it was last updated...) but the series 6 one looks like it was copied from an earlier version of the series 6 article. Sorry I'm freaking out, but I've been working hard on this article to get it to FL and I have it up for PR. Honestly, I did not directly copy anything! I've never seen that site before! I've also rewritten pretty much the rest of the article so if you find anything, I did not copy it! Glimmer721 talk 02:19, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
If you wrote it, and your prepared to swear to that, then just restore it Jasonfward (talk) 04:03, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
This looks above my pay grade so I've raised it at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2011_December_13#Copyright_problem:Doctor_Who_.28series_5.29, which looks a suitable place. The problem with just restoring it is that it is likely to be removed again. Edgepedia (talk) 07:36, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Glimmer, can I apologize for my edit comment which should have said it looked like a copyright violation. Hopefully someone will look at this soon and come to a judgement, and with sifficient evidence to get blogger to remove the wikipedia copy! I've looked at www.archive.org but the page is not cached there. Edgepedia (talk) 11:37, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Note to closing admin or clerk: I have marked the series 5 article as a backwardscopy of this blog as [2] is dated September 1, 2011 and contains text that was on that article the previous day Edgepedia (talk) 22:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
It's okay, I'd like to apologize for how I came across...I was actually quite worried and stressed because I didn't know what it meant for me or the article and if there was any way I could prove that I wrote it. Thanks for looking into this. Glimmer721 talk 22:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

In light of the fact that the blog has copied other wikipedia articles, and Glimmer's entirely believable protestations, I'm going to resolve this on Wikipedia:Copyright_problems as "no copyright violation". --Mkativerata (talk) 21:12, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Mkativerata. I've restored the text I removed. Edgepedia (talk) 07:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Doctor Who (series 5)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ruby2010 (talk · contribs) 03:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Will be reviewing this one soon. Ruby 2010/2013 03:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Comments
  • When did Russell T Davies leave the show? Was he at all involved with the 5th series? The lead's mention of him doesn't really make this clear.
  • "Though it is the fifth series since the show's revival in 2005 and the thirty-first since it began in 1963, it was produced and intended to be marketed as "Series One"." - I'm not quite sure I understand this. Wasn't this produced as Series One?
    • Yes, it was. How do you suggest putting that without getting too wordy? I haven't found anything on specifically why they dropped going for Series One or why they did in the first place (in this interview Moffat says the budget would have been bigger if it was series 1, but he doesn't say why they dropped it). Glimmer721 talk
  • Hmmmm it is odd that Moffat went for "Series One", but after further reading, I think what you wrote makes sense. No need for changes. Ruby 2010/2013 05:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • You should add a link to Adam Smith (director) if you feel there is a likely chance of its creation
    • It seems he's mostly directed music videos and a few episodes of Skins and Little Dorrit. I'm not sure that warrants notability, but I'll surely add it if the article is created. Glimmer721 talk 00:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

More to come! Ruby 2010/2013 23:21, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

  • The Smith/Gillan image would look better if it were bigger
    • Increased from 150px to 2000px. Glimmer721 talk 16:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • "Other influences included the "an element of a professor" and "big, dusty boots like Indiana Jones"." - typo
  • You mention Matthew Graham a bit out of nowhere; perhaps at least explain his relationship to the series and/or Moffat?
  • Add a link to "Vincent and the Doctor" for the writing section that discusses Richard Curtis
    • Mentioned the title of the episode, but didn't link it since non of the other episodes mentioned in that section are linked. Glimmer721 talk 16:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • "The new theme angered fans" -> "The new theme angered some fans" - seems more appropriate, as surely not all of them were angered!
    • Good point; I sort of stole that from the title of the source. Glimmer721 talk 16:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • A mostly well-written article, except for this:
  • "The Doctor was also equipped with his sonic screwdriver, but as this was often used as skeleton key the game employes the solving of puzzles to advance instead of simply using the screwdriver." - It's not quite clear what you're trying to convey
    • Added a few more words; let me know if "skeleton key" (or anything else) should be explained. Glimmer721 talk 16:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

It's clear you've spent a lot of time and energy building up this article. Just a few more minor issues, and then it will be good to go! I rather enjoyed this series, and found reading about it interesting. Ruby 2010/2013 05:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I think I've fixed everything. Hoping to take this to FAC sometime in the future. Glimmer721 talk 16:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I think it definitely has FAC potential! Passing for GA. Nice work! Ruby 2010/2013 03:37, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Arthur Darvill / Rory[edit]

So how many episodes in this series did he appear in? Because the article has recently been changed from 6 to 7 but only source I can find (IMDB) says 8. So can we find a good source and get this right once and for all? Jasonfward (talk) 13:36, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

From memory, he appears in:
  • Eleventh Hour
  • The Vampires of Venice (companion)
  • Amy's Choice (companion)
  • The Hungry Earth (companion)
  • Cold Blood (companion)
  • The Pandorica Opens (companion)
  • The Big Bang (companion)
I count that as 7, and the plot summaries in the article corroborate that information. It's possible that IMDb includes the Christmas Special as part of the series, or a flashback in one of the episodes between Cold Blood and The Pandorica Opens. I can't remember if such a flashback exists, but it's possible. As a character in the narrative though, I count 7 appearances.  drewmunn  talk  13:52, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I have been through the episode of this series and I count that he has been in 7 episodes, and was a companion in 6 of them. (marked on the list above) 13thDoctor93 (talk) 14:06, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks. No source is really required when the primary can be used more reliably!  drewmunn  talk  14:11, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Question[edit]

I have been coming to Wikipedia for a while now, and I really enjoyed how the Latest Doctor Who complete series articles gave every detail as to what was on the DVD. There is a small flier that comes with each boxed set, however I can't read it very well. But Wikipedia takes care of that. Well today I came in here to see what was on the Complete Series 7 and, there is nothing about it anywhere. So I thought about checking out Series 6. So I discover that article has been deleated also, probably by elitist bent on erasing everything that does not fit their twisted rules of Notability.

Just in case I mis-typed I was wondering if someone could tell me what has happened to the articles on the DVD sets of the revived series of Doctor Who, Thank you Magnum Serpentine (talk) 00:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

I apparently did not look carefully enough at how Series 5 was written. There is a majority of information about the DVD set that was found in the article when it was called Doctor Who: The Complete 5th series DVD. I was rather upset when I mentioned elitism above and I apologize. Magnum Serpentine (talk) 00:31, 14 October 2013 (UTC)