Talk:Domenico Gabrielli

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Works, editions and recordings[edit]

It appears that there are at least 3 sonatas for violoncello and basso continuo by Domenico Gabrielli. See for instance the following recordings: MusicWeb CD review, MusicBrainz release information. --Shutterfreak (talk) 10:57, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Attribution of Gabrielli's nickname[edit]

This is in response to @Future Perfect at Sunrise: who deleted my edit with the following comment:

. (sorry, but actually that reference to the nickname on the manuscript is an addition by a later librarian, so it's not quite correct to say it's "attested in the manuscript") 

I am fully aware that the inscription in the ms. to the Ricercari is in a later hand. My edit was intended to show that the wording [which appears on the cover page directly facing f. 1r of the ms.] attests to the existence version of the nickname, "Mingain", which it does. This is not to say that it proves that Gabrielli's contemporaries called him this, for which I hope someone will eventually also be able to add a citation, but just to say that this nickname existed at all, at least as far back as the time that the inscription was added, which I would estimate is before the middle of the nineteenth century. I have no personal stake in whether this comment appears in the article, but as it stood, the article simply reiterated the unsupported claims of later (nineteenth- and early twentieth-century) secondary lirature without even citing those sources.--HenryPurcell (talk) 04:28, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

I see what you mean, but still, the inscription really doesn't do anything different from what the references in the modern secondary literature do: it claims that he had that nickname, without providing further sources or background. Incidentally, I do think it's from about the mid-19th century (as is the main title inscription on the same page to which it was subsequently added), but that's a bit speculative of course. For what it's worth, this [1] modern work at least cites a primary contemporary source attesting to the use of "Minghino", though not in the combination with "dal violoncello" or variants thereof. This [2] has a reference to a contemporary chronicle calling him "Minghino dal Violoncello"; that's probably about as good as we're going to get. This [3] might also be pertinent. This [4] book unfortunately misreads the handwritten inscription, quoting it as "Gabrielli un detto..."; it should evidently be "Gabrielli era detto...". Fut.Perf. 16:14, 4 July 2017 (UTC)