Talk:Don't Leave Me Now (Pink Floyd song)

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DAB[edit]

Because the disambiguation link goes nowhere, I edited it out. Heroicraptor 21:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Repeat Guitar[edit]

The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia 3rd edition states that Roger Waters played "repeat guitar" on this track (Page 88). It should perhaps be included in the article 83.108.109.166 (talk) 15:05, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure by "repeat" they mean delay (audio effect), and that would be the chang-chang-chang parts that are currently described in this article as "a reverb-laden synthesizer".
It's easy to mistake certain sounds in Pink Floyd records for synthesizers. For example, Gilmour often used a lap-steel slide guitar, with a volume pedal to hide the attacks of the notes, and a lot of delay, to create echoey sliding sounds that are quite unlike traditional rock guitar. I'm sure a lot of people mistake these parts (for example, in "Breathe") for synths. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Culture (talkcontribs) 08:38, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

"Composition" section[edit]

Call me literal, but I just wrote a large paragraph for this section describing the actual musical composition of the song (it's one of the most musically unique compositions on the album). After doing so, I didn't know what to do with the text that was already there when I started. It has a lot of POV, and I wasn't sure what to keep of it. So, as of now, it's not there. Here it is:

The song is split into two main portions; the first of which is very quiet and dissonant, reflected by a 'sluggish' piano and reverb-laden synthesiser. The lyrics are rather cynical (as in "The Thin Ice") and have a lackluster quality, accentuating the plot. The second section contains a protracted, emotional plea, and is louder in tone. The song ends as Pink quickly switches between different channels on his TV, and finishes the song with a hysterical scream. The song marks the infidelity of Pink's wife and his corresponding, and increasing, isolation from society. The music has a slow, haunting quality, culminating in a mournful guitar solo.

The first sentence: This has been covered, in what I wrote (without the incorrect use of a semicolon). Describing the piano as "sluggish" seems inappropriate, and using single-quotation marks looks unprofessional to me. (And music isn't divided into "portions" -- that's for food -- but "sections".)
Second sentence: Is the "Composition" section for the composition, or the lyrics? "Rather cynical" - is that not POV? And "(as in The Thin Ice)" seems arbitrary. The rest of the songs on The Wall AREN'T cynical? If we're going to use "cynical", I should think it applies to the whole of the album. And I thought "lackluster" was really going too far with the POV. I don't even get it -- what's "lackluster" about these lyrics? How does this "lackluster" quality accentuate the plot? Are we saying it's a "lackluster" plot??
Third sentence: Seems to me, the whole song, including title, is a "protracted emotional plea". The "louder in tone" part is covered by what I wrote.
Fourth sentence: The musique concrete of the channel-switching TV should be mentioned in the article, but as part of the "Composition" section, or the "Plot" section? I mean to rewrite the whole article, if nobody else does it first, and if I do this will be mentioned. The song doesn't really finish with a "hysterical scream"; the contributor may have been thinking of the preceding song, "One Of My Turns".
Fifth sentence: True, but a mess. I should think the bit about Pink's wife cheating on him is (or should be) covered in the "Film" section.
Sixth sentence:

"The music has a slow, haunting quality, culminating in a mournful guitar solo."

That is actually the very worst wannabe-rock-critic writing I have ever encountered in my 13 years on the Internet. And, it's strictly POV. That sentence provides none of what an encyclopaedia article is meant to provide. I notice that most of the articles on individual songs from The Wall have a good deal of this, and it all has a similar flavor. One might say, certain portions of these articles need to be axed.
I think all 26 articles need to be re-written, and will do so myself if it doesn't get done before I get to it.
So, for now, the above text is not in there. What isn't deletable POV or redundancy should and will be incorporated into the article soon.
--Ben Culture (talk) 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC) Updated: --Ben Culture (talk) 19:05, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I think what I wrote at that time has held up pretty well, and I don't see anything particularly missing from the Composition section.
One specific concern I have, regarding this section, is that I think the D and A chords of the second section are really minor-added-ninth chords, not suspended-second chords. One source says one thing, another says the other. So we basically have our choice, and my ear tells me it's Dm(add9) and Am(add9). (The minor-added-ninth chord is very much a Pink Floyd staple, beginning with "Paint Box" and most prominent in "Breathe".) Obviously, the piano part is playing sus2 arpeggios, but I hear the minor thirds in each chord (F and C, respectively), from some keyboard or rhythm guitar somewhere in the mix. Any disagreements? Any objections to a change?
--Ben Culture (talk) 20:47, 6 December 2013 (UTC)