Talk:Duel - The Haunted House Strikes Back!

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--Ride Experience--[edit]

I don't really think the ride experience section is detailed enough, I think there should be like written review on various scenes, NOT an opinionated review as with wikipedia the pov needs to be neutral but a description of scenes. The ride experience on Trimper's Haunted House is quite detailed decribing the props and effects thoroughly I think the same should be done with this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.140.42 (talk) 14:21, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers[edit]

How do you make a spoiler banner in this article (i'm new to this, don't shoot me if I don't know how), because the description of the ghost train part of the duel haunted house is getting detailed and riders should not really take a peak pre-riding if you see what i mean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antidanguy (talkcontribs) 22:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

we don't typically do spoilers here, see WP:Spoilers, oh and welcome aboard!. Dbrodbeck (talk) 01:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
err I meant we don't do spoiler warnings, sorry about that. Dbrodbeck (talk) 01:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Duel= Ride Experience[edit]

Think we should do an in-depth description of duel after the change-over, anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.207.216 (talk) 12:08, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

All done now, and it seems really detailed. If there is too much detail then it may be trimmed a bit, but all the necessary info is there.Woombamillio (talk) 16:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Duel theme musical differences[edit]

I dunno about you Woomabillio (or whatever ur wikipedia name is not in a spelling mood), but think we should write about how the duel theme sounds differently depending on which area in the ghost train your in or what speakers your listening to. Because it does add alot to the atmosphere. Recently in 2009, which duel theme version you heard in a certain area all got changed around and has kinda stayed the same except the music from the skel corridor currently interwines with the music from the HOS. should that be written about or is that too much detail —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.140.42 (talk) 22:13, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Redirect[edit]

An IP user, 92.20.148.198 has twice turned this page into a redirect. Now, I actually don't care a whole lot (I don't know how this got on my watchlist....) but an article with this much content that has been around for this long, I think just turning it into a redirect ought to be discussed. Dbrodbeck (talk) 00:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

This ride is a VERY minor ride at Alton Towers, and has no reason to have its own article.--92.20.148.198 (talk) 22:09, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
In that case send it to AFD and see what happens. Dbrodbeck (talk) 23:06, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I would say it's excessively detailed, but there appears to be some independent reporting on this attraction, which would go to notability. It may not have the cache of Alton Towers' roller coasters, but I think there's something here. The excessive detail can be toned down, and since there's nothing here that a little work can't fix (certainly no need for a fundamental rewrite), if it does go to AfD, I'd vote to keep. --McDoobAU93 21:25, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

With respect 92.20.148.198, I have you know that Duel is certainly "not" a "very" minor ride at Alton Towers, it is the remains of a haunted house ride that was once marketed in the 1990s as a flagship attraction on a par with the likes of Nemesis and Corkscrew. Also because of it's predecessor it houses a lot of unique characters and special effects seen in a lot of UK Dark Rides due to budget constraints. There is also an ongoing debate as to what Duel's future is going to be, whether or not it's going to get turned back into the Haunted House and because of it's rich history of the developing and changing of scenes throughout it's years I think it warrants as much in depth detail as the Haunted Mansion at Magic Kingdom. Just because it doesn't happen to be a roller coaster doesn't stop it from being as important as one. Even if it was a minor ride, what damage would an article do, apart from provide more information on one of the UK's leading theme parks, Alton Towers. Feel free to post any counter-arguments against this very statement, thank you for reading. --94.0.86.66 (talk) 20:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.218.252.123 (talk)

Minor or Major ride?[edit]

With respect 92.20.148.198, I have you know that Duel is certainly "not" a "very" minor ride at Alton Towers, it is the remains of a haunted house ride that was once marketed in the 1990s as a flagship attraction on a par with the likes of Nemesis and Corkscrew. Also because of it's predecessor it houses a lot of unique characters and special effects seen in a lot of UK Dark Rides due to budget constraints. There is also an ongoing debate as to what Duel's future is going to be, whether or not it's going to get turned back into the Haunted House and because of it's rich history of the developing and changing of scenes throughout it's years I think it warrants as much in depth detail as the Haunted Mansion at Magic Kingdom. Just because it doesn't happen to be a roller coaster doesn't stop it from being as important as one. Even if it was a minor ride, what damage would an article do, apart from provide more information on one of the UK's leading theme parks, Alton Towers. Feel free to post any counter-arguments against this very statement, thank you for reading. --94.0.86.66 (talk) 20:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Jesus christ why are the detailed edits being reverted - Duel is as important as the Smiler --90.199.121.253 (talk) 21:40, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

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PROTEST[edit]

This ride is as important as Haunted Mansion, bring the ride sequence back! Please. Lets argue about this here and now! Italic text — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.248.66 (talk) 11:51, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

There is no justification for removing the ride sequence due to the reasons stated above --90.206.186.179 (talk) 16:29, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

If Trimpers can be overly detailed so can Duel - simples --2.217.52.199 (talk) 22:28, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

- Restoring this article to a readible, encyclopedic version is nothing to do with the "importance" of Duel. I revert the article to its correct version not because I have decided "Duel is unimportant". In 2010 I wrote a long rambling version of the article and since then realised this was a mistake, hence reverted it. Adding so much unsourced, descriptive detail simply prevents people from learning anything factual about the ride.

I would argue all the other articles about attractions you reference on Haunted Mansion and Trimper's should also be reduced in detail. Subjectively explaining every single detail in the ride is arbitrary, obsessive and spoils the intentions of surprise, reveal and non-verbal experience in the attraction's design. This page should be reduced to factual information - anything more than this can be experienced by simply going on the ride, as was intended in the ride's design. Wikipedia is just for learning factual information and not to act as a written representation of the ride.Woombamillio (talk) 14:40, 8 June 2017 (UTC)