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Feedback[edit]

There's hardly anything written about the feedback system even though it's a significant part of the eBay paradigm. There's a mention of changes, or how things differ from the "overall feedback" but nothing that describes what the "overall feedback" system is.

The whole notion of the feedback system was an essential distinguishing feature of eBay, since a person selling stroller in Peoria to a buyer in Oshkosh needed to know whether to send out the stroller first, or whether the buyer should send a check first. That was especially true before PayPal.

There's also no mention of the shift from the feedback based model to the prepaid/PayPal based model. Although PayPal is not an absolute requirement, there was a back door change to the overall policies when sellers were asked to specify when they are going to ship with respect to when (meaning how long after) they receive payment. Thus its purpose changed to one of a merchant rating system. Hagrinas (talk) 19:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Feedback Ratings[edit]

The feedback ratings are no longer anonymous. I have an eBay account and I can see who has left me feedback. --InformationContributor11 (talk) 22:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

You are more than a bit confused, one could always see who left Feedback. And is not the same as The Rating System which is based on a 5 point scale concerning How Accurate was Description, How Fast was Item Shipped, How Reasonable were Shipping and Handling Fees, etc. is anonymous.2602:306:CF5B:6C80:7DFF:2257:B79E:7C63 (talk) 02:15, 16 October 2014 (UTC) Still Doc Ock

Books[edit]

I've removed the "Further Reading" section on the article. I was unclear what the books listed have to merit having a plug for them on the article. Particularly when many of them appeared to be guides on how to run businesses on eBay, rather than being about eBay itself. If anyone has reasons why these books should be here, happy to hear them. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 20:38, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Ebay as a Swiss Registered Company[edit]

Just wondering whether Ebay should be described as a American Company registered in Switzerland as per the footer of official emails from Ebay i.e. eBay International AG Helvetiastrasse 15/17 - P.O. Box 133, 3000 Bern 6, Switzerland ? 203.22.239.98 (talk) 09:38, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

No, that's eBay International AG, a subsidiary of eBay, Inc. --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:46, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

eBay's failure in China[edit]

The article states that the only places where expansion failed were Taiwan, Japan and New Zealand. However Taobao clearly outperformed eBay, despite eBay having a headstart after it acquired EachNet in 2002-03.

The Taobao article states:

"As a result, Taobao became the undisputed market leader in mainland China within two years. Its market share surged from 8% to 59% between 2003 and 2005, while eBay China's plunged from 79% to 36%.[7] Finally, eBay shut down its own site in China in 2006."

eBay's failure in China has become a classic case study in the field of International Business. It should be recognised here.

Here is a Forbes article covering eBay's failure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.149.29.251 (talk) 05:36, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

edit to ebay's page about the removal of the Zimmerman painting[edit]

I've copied the following from my talk page to this talk page, so that additional editors can also view and comment the discussion. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 03:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm confused about your removal of my additional section to ebay's controversy page about their removal of the Zimmerman piece. Can you please suggest an edit so that I can post it as I think it is highly relevant and contains all required references. I have pasted it below. Thanks
In December 2013, on the same day that George Zimmerman’s painting raked in over $100,000 on eBay [1], artist Micheal D’Antuono was told by the same online auction company that his artistic interpretation of the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin confrontation titled “A Tale Of Two Hoodies” violated eBay’s Hateful or Discriminatory policy and was removed from the website.[2]
In an email D’Antuono provided to Raw Story[3], eBay told the artist that “[i]tems promoting or glorifying hatred, violence, or racial or religious intolerance aren’t allowed. Items that promote organizations with these views are also prohibited.” And they explained that “[t]he painting you listed appears to contain images or icons associated with the KKK which are not allowed to be listed on our site as they represent an organization that glorifies hate and violence.”
As at the time of writing, the painting “A Tale Of Two Hoodies” had been relisted on artFido[4], with D'Antuono promising to donate 50% of the proceeds of the sale to the Trayvon Martin Foundation.[5][6]
(Hamaze01 (talk) 03:30, 30 December 2013 (UTC))
As written, the above comes across as an advert for the artist and painting that's now listed in an active auction elsewhere. It's important to keep the focus on eBay, without the secondary material. Also, the original version appears to contain copy/paste copyright violations from the refs.
Looking over the refs, there is potential grounds for calling it a controversy (although those refs appear borderline on meeting WP:RS). However, the material can be re-written to a single sentence while still retaining the relevant criticisms, and avoiding the advert and NPOV concerns, as well as avoiding the copyvio issues. A trimmed version can simply state:
In December 2013, on the same day that a painting by George Zimmerman sold for over $100,000 on eBay [7], an artistic interpretation of the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin confrontation titled “A Tale Of Two Hoodies” was removed from their site, with eBay claiming it violated their Hateful or Discriminatory policy.[8]
--- Barek (talkcontribs) - 04:00, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the passage simply because the article is not a WP:SOAPBOX for what someone considers "something bad about Ebay". Its a private (meaning non-government) for-profit website and entitled to police its listing and allow or disallow whatever it chooses. It has a history of shying away from controversial topics, so its not a surprise they removed an item like this. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 05:35, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello Scalhotrod. This was already accepted by editor Barek so I am confused why you deleted it. I am also confused as this is/was a major controversy, irrespective of whatever ebay allows or doesn't allow. eBay allowed Zimmerman to list his painting, but disallowed another artist listing their painting in response. This is extremely noteworthy and was referenced extensively. Can we have a third wiki editor review this as an impartial adjudicator? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamaze01 (talkcontribs) 09:08, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Open Source Alternative[edit]

anyone know of, or what open source model may break Ebay's monopoly ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.3.213 (talk) 14:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Monopoly on what? Even if eBay has a "monopoly", it's not because of their architecture; it's because of their real strong point, marketing. --jpgordon::==( o ) 16:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

searching for things on ebay[edit]

why is there no info on ebay search tools, or do we just use google to search for things on ebay these days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.0.231 (talk) 11:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


Why No Mention of e-Bay.com[edit]

eBay was originally one of many companies with the a x-bay.com address. We had an account with e-bay.com we were told the new address and all e-bay.net accounts will be ebay.com and that you could keep your old account name or change it. We changed ours as the name we had chosen was not something we expected to keep for decades to come and was not quite PG Rated. I am seriously wondering why this is not mentioned in the article as surely it was not a subject that was taken lightly, the -bay.com was a place of commerce, porn, and other very popular websites. 2602:306:CF5B:6C80:7DFF:2257:B79E:7C63 (talk) 02:25, 16 October 2014 (UTC)Still Doc Ock

Point us to some reliable sources discussing the phenomenon you describe, and perhaps it can be included in the article. --jpgordon::==( o ) 14:01, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Merger Proposal[edit]

I propose merging Criticism of eBay with Ebay to create a more NPOV article. if the article becomes to long we can use topics and content to make subarticles. Bryce Carmony (talk) 11:31, 16 March 2015 (UTC)