Talk:East Carolina University
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I read through the article. I think the prose needs quite a bit of work before it will be up to FA status. The sentences seem to be either short and stubby or very long and unwieldy. Overall, it doesn't flow that well. Other suggestions follow:
I've never heard of a university described as an "intensive research university". What does that mean? Need nonbreaking spaces between numbers and their units/qualifiers (25,990 students, its) Need wikilinks for full dates This sentence is a little clunky- " In early August 2007, it was announced that the North Carolina General Assembly had approved and Governor Mike Easley had signed the budget including $25 Million for a new School of Dentistry at ECU with the first students expected no later than 2011." "The students have an active social life." - This sentence probably needs to be removed. It would be impossible to prove that all students have an active social life, and it's likely that some students don't.
- A lot of the prose is in passive tense; if possible, please switch to active tense. For example, the first sentence of history section would be much more understandable if it were not in passive tense.
Need a citation for this: "Today, ECU is the third-largest university in North Carolina with 18,587 undergraduates and 5,764 graduates, including the 290 Brody School of Medicine students" It seems a little odd to have a section called "Future of East Carolina" in the midst of the History section. (also, the article title shouldn't be repeated in the section headings) Image captions shouldn't end with periods unless they are full sentences. Need citations for facts in the Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium Expansion section (and sentences that begin with numbers should have the numbers written out) "will be completed in 2007" - it's now 2008, so this needs to be updated Is geteducated.com a reliable source? I question whether its ranking should be included in the article at all.
- Its on the front page of the College of Business webpage; 
Need citations for much of the facts in Greek life section:
"The majority are located off or near 5th Street or 10th Street. Of the 16 social fraternities, seven currently do not own a house. Greek life started in 1958 with the introduction of four social fraternities: Kappa Alpha Order, Lambda Chi Alpha, Pi Kappa Alpha, and Theta Chi. Two years later, eight of the nine social sororities were founded.:
I would add wikilinks for NCAA Division IA and Conference USA "Pirates" does not need ot be in italics There is a citation needed tag after a sentence in Traditions and Events
Information removed temporarily due to lack of citation
Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium Expansion
Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium is in the beginning process of expansion. Thirty-five hundred seats will be added to the East side (endzone) prior to the 2009 season. The new addition will be constructed for easy addition of 3,500 more seats at a later date. On the south side a new press box and office complex will be built. The total height will be about six stories, with a two-story press box, luxury suite level, academic space and the football offices.
- The Society of the Seven article has been deleted for lack of sources, so I second this. We need reliable third-party sources. Those which had been added were considered insufficient for that article and so the same surely applies here. Artichoke2020 (talk) 00:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Removed references to secret societies as no one has been able to provide references that they are anything more than hoaxes in many, many AFD debates. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- The Society of Seven does exist, if only historically. But until their is a proper citation, it cannot be included. The Order of the Cupola is a donor society for people who have donated significantly to the school. Again it cannot be included until citation occurs. PGPirate 22:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
In the header it states ECU is the third largest university in North Carolina, but in the history section it states ECU is the second largest university in NC. Which is it? Hobga (talk) 18:17, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. ECU is the third largest in total enrollment, but second in undergraduate. PGPirate 01:54, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
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The article is generally quite good. There are certain issues, like the structure of the "Colleges and school" section being a bit too listy. Other things are recommendable, like the use of prose form instead of lists in e.g. "Notable people".
The main problem is with link rot. This comes primarily from an apparent reorganisation of the university web site last year, which left several links dead. There were originally 25 dead links. I've reworked it as well as I could, and managed to get the number down to 8, but this is still too much, and I can't guarantee for the accuracy of the new links (see here for details). At the moment the article just doesn't seem to satisfy WP:V, and as much as I would like not to, I will have to delist it if something serious is not done about this problem. Lampman (talk) 13:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- Fortunately User:PGPirate did a great job at replacing the dead links, so I'm now happy to keep this as a GA. Lampman (talk) 21:24, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
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Proposed merge with East Carolina University Student Government Association
- It's notable enough to be in many unaffiliated news outlets all the freakin time.--22.214.171.124 (talk) 23:20, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Just because it is in some newspapers, doesn't mean it is notable enough for Wikipedia. This article doesn't have enough reliable sources, the people that are being added don't meet WP:BIO and a majority of the content is unsourced. Plus adding stuff like this or stuff that is in the Controversies section like #REKT or in the history section when SEX is in all caps. Stuff like this doesn't meet Wikipedia guidelines. I would either suggest that it gets merged into the ECU article, or it gets nominated for deletion. Corkythehornetfan (Talk) 23:51, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Redirect - There is really nothing to merge as nothing of consequence is independently sourced). The vast majority of the article was nearly incoherent rambling, rumors about past members (WP:BLP issues in some cases) and such. If the user wants to document this kind of stuff, a blog might be a good choice. A website specifically dedicated to the East Carolina University Student Government Association would take more work; presumably they'd want it to be coherent. In any case, unless significant coverage in independent reliable sources, a redirect is clearly in order. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:57, 15 November 2014 (UTC)