Talk:Eastern Anatolia Region

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Comments[edit]

"Eastern Turkey is Western Armenia" 06:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

EAstern Turkey is in TURKEY my friend. I am trying to remove as uch propaganda as possible that people such as yourselves are creatingThetruthonly (talk) 19:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Title[edit]

I moved this page because it's Wikipedia policy to use the most common term for something. This is applied throughout our encyclopedia for establishing the titles of the articles.

So, it's not hard to see that "Eastern Anatolia Region" is a much more common form:

Or, if you trust printed books more:

Khoikhoi 07:12, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


Serious error in this article?[edit]

Doğu Anadolu Bölgesi/East Anatolia Region is not a political or census-defined division, it is a geographical division and has four sub-divisions (Upper Murat Van region, Erzurum-Kars region, Upper Firat region, and Hakkari region). Its borders do not follow the borders of the political/administrative/census regions of eastern Turkey - so the Wikipedia entry for Eastern Anatolia Region is incorrect in that aspect. Meowy 23:38, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Western Armenia[edit]

Eastern Anatolia region has been originally known as Western Armenia in numerous sources, including Britannica Encyclopedia. I have undid deletion of this data from the article several times, each time giving sources and footnotes, but every time found the article changed in a couple of days without any basing facts, if not taking into consideration the fact of calling me a nationalist (!). If the fact I provided the data proved by uncountable number of sources, starting from middle-age historians and international maps up to current historians and encyclopedias is nationalism, then I doubt objectivity of Wikipedia. If considering the fact not worth to mention in the article, then I should say it is as worth to mention, as the fact that e.g. the city name ]]Kaliningrad's]] original title was Königsberg, Nagorno-Karabakh's was meant under Artsakh, huge part of modern Romania was meant under Transylvania, etc. Now I'm undoing the latest deletion. Thanks to everybody, who read and understood! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 517design (talkcontribs) 21:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Your information is basically an ideology of a greater Armenia. Another form of propaganda that is why I am removing it. Justinz84 (talk) 20:05, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with you being a racist propagandist yourself eh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.245.174.119 (talk) 11:05, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Is these numerous sources write something for the First Geography Congress, Turkey? Filibeli (talk) 12:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

History section on region[edit]

Should there not also be a paragraph or two detailing the history of the region? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.245.174.119 (talk) 16:51, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

It's vandalism[edit]

It's not possible, official name of the region is Eastern Anatolia region of Turkey, if someone dreams for a highland Armenia with a population less than 5000 it's so funny. And the pictures have to change because there are no only Armenian churches in this region. There must be more information about the region, not about for Armenia!Zaparojdik 12,25 (UTC) 13th January 2010

Average temperature[edit]

The region has the lowest average temperature of all Turkish regions, with -25°C.

Assuming "with" is meant to be "at", this makes no sense. The lowest temperature in the climate chart above this statement is -15°C; the average cannot possibly be lower than that. Hairy Dude (talk) 23:59, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Major changes/corrections[edit]

Maps[edit]

Right now, these maps are used in the article:

These maps are quite simply incorrect; the borders of the geographical regions of Turkey do not overlap with the borders of the administrative provinces.

This is the correct map of the geographical Eastern Anatolia Region:

Provinces in the Eastern Anatolia Region[edit]

Since the borders do not overlap, there can be no clear-cut list of provinces in the Eastern Anatolia Region.

Right now, this list is featured in the article:

This list is also incorrect.

If we want to list the provinces in the Eastern Anatolia Region, we will need at least two, but preferable three categorizies:

  1. Provinces that are entirely in the Eastern Anatolia Region.
  2. Provinces that are mostly in the Eastern Anatolia Region.
  3. Provinces that are partially in the Eastern Anatolia Region.

According to this map, which shows both geographical and provincial borders, the correct list should be as follows:

Provinces in the Eastern Anatolia Region

Provinces that are entirely in the Eastern Anatolia Region:

Provinces that are mostly in the Eastern Anatolia Region:

Provinces that are partially in the Eastern Anatolia Region:

Population[edit]

Since the geographical borders are imprecise (they don't overlap with district borders either), there is no convenient way to calculate the population of the geographical Eastern Anatolia Region, or other geographical regions of Turkey for that matter. Any figure you see on the Internet in this regard is, at best, imprecise guesswork. I propose that we rank geographical regions among themselves and leave it at that. --Mttll (talk) 11:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Tautology[edit]

Anatolia is a relatively new term used in Turkey, stemming from Greek, meaning "East", which distorts the geographical location of Armenian Highlands or Armenian Plateau following the Republic of Turkey's attempts to change all ancient Armenian place names into Turkish. Eastern Anatolia, therefore, means "Eastern East" and is logically invalid. I suggest using the traditional toponym Armenian Highlands.71.191.1.192 (talk) 17:26, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Davidian

Besides the fact that the English language doesn't operate that way - I used to live near El Play Boulevard, ie Boulevard Boulevard - it's an official designation. So it isn't going to happen. 18:14, 13 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller (talkcontribs)
Don't tell me how the English language operates, okay? "Eastern Anatolia" IS a tautology. Your own article List of tautological place names determines unequivocally that “a place name is tautological if two differently sounding parts of it are synonymous. This often occurs when a name from one language is imported into another and a standard descriptor is added on from the second language.”--71.191.1.192 (talk) 21:33, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Davidian
Of course it's a tautology, I didn't deny it. What I am denying is that your claim that the tautology is logically invalid is relevant in any way. English isn't logical and I've never meant anyone who said it was. In any case the deal breaker is that we aren't going to go against WP:COMMONNAME - the normal name for the region, which is an official governmental area, is Eastern Anatolia. Doug Weller talk 14:57, 14 June 2016 (UTC)