Talk:Eden Gardens

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Photo needs replacing[edit]

The photo on the page has a caption which says "Floodlights of Eden Gardens". Not really, it shows traffic lights somewhere outside the ground. Anyone got the right image? Moriori 08:34, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

The floodlights are in the distance, one can be seen above the car in the center of the picture. But I agree, this ground requires a much better photo to do it justice. Parthepan 09:44, 14 September 2005 (UTC)


No of ODI and TEST played at Eden garden[edit]

The figures shows here are not correct and take from a old article about the venue see here

http://stats.rleague.com/tc/venues/26.html and http://stats.rleague.com/odi/venues/78.html shows some recent stats but are not up to date

Largest apart from...?[edit]

Article states that Eden Gardens is largest cricketing facility in world apart from the MCG. Just curious how this "largest" thing is measured. I presume this means the actual physical size of the stadium, because in terms of seating capacity Eden Gardens would seem to be larger than MCG (ie 120,000 vs 100,000). bolshy 03:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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Just a quick point.[edit]

I just can't be sure of that seating figure, it seems high given the picture used to illustrate the ground (look at the difference to the picture of the MCG). I think the ground's capacity may be 120,000 (sitting and standing) but I don't know it still seems high given the attendance figures for recent events. Maybe an Indian cricket fan may be able to confirm this, know where to get some info etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.65.142 (talk) 18:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

  • the seating capacity is 88,000 and there are 32,000 tickets sold for those who want to stand/squat on the grass and watch the match. That makes for a total of 120,000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.156.156 (talk) 14:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Currently it has a capacity of 90,000 (check cricinfo page on this ground), which is same as MCG. In recent years, Eden was renovated and number of seats has been reduced to increase comfort of spectators.GDibyendu (talk) 14:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Eden Gardens has a capaity slightly larger that the MCG, beacuse it is often advertised as the largest cricket ground in the world. And cricinfo is wrong then, because I am 100% sure that the total (seats+standing)capacity is 100,000+ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.156.156 (talk) 11:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

After renovation, with bucket seats, Eden Garden's capacity has reduced to 65000. I am updating this in the main page. [1] Kdg81 (talk) 13:25, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Copyright infringement[edit]

Copyrighted material was first added to this article in 2005, here. Internet archives confirm its prior publication at this site. To restore it to a point prior to publication of infringement, we'd have to go back to this. I have restored the copyright template to the article to give contributors an opportunity to address the concerns, either by seeking permission by the processes currently set out at the article's face or revising the text in temporary space. An administrator will resolve the matter after 7 days. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you notice that the text is basically on hard facts on the stadium. How can this be a copyright infringement? Anyway, the ip user who had reported this, has shown the site to me also, and I had done some copyedit so that the text is not exactly the same as in the website.--GDibyendu (talk) 13:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Please see our copyright FAQ, which addresses a little bit the amount of revision necessary to efface infringement. Also of benefit here may be the Wikipedia essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. The fact that 1864 is when the Eden Gardens Cricket Club was established is not copyrightable, but sentences like "The present Eden Gardens Cricket Club came in existence some time in the year 1864."—present both in the text and the source—are. Revising to avoid infringement means completely rewriting and reorganizing text. Text cannot be duplicated from a copyrighted source except in compliance with WP:NFC, which allows limited quotations for specific purposes. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I doubt if there is a Copyright Infringement. Facts are facts ... You cannot copy them, can you? I just don't see the need to list this page for copyright infringement96.52.193.72 (talk) 04:01, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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New Article[edit]

Obviously we need an article on Eden Gardens. The info box is OK, so I'll start something on the sub page mentioned so we can get going again with this. Nick mallory (talk) 10:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Are we going to updated this? Ovshake (talk) 11:18, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
This has come ripe for closure. Would you like me to restore the last clean here so that contributors can build on it, or would you prefer to have access to the material for a few days more while working in the temporary space? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Please see the project talk page for my resolution on this. SGGH ping! 19:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. :) I'll mark it resolved at WP:CP. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Seating Capacity[edit]

The seating capacity of the arena has been reduced after the renovation. There are multiple and updated reliable sources which states that the capacity is in the range of 59,000+ to 64,500 and none of the sources claim that the capacity is anywhere close to 100,000. Also, the historical figure of 120,000 is totally incorrect as the maximum number of spectators Eden ever hold was 100,000. Probably someone has confused Eden with Salt Lake Stadium. There are multiple independent sources on the capacity of the stadium:

  1. The official IPL site says that it is 63,000.
  2. This article published in The Telegraph, Kolkata on 5th March 2011 says 64,500 and is the figure given in the article.
  3. The official BCCI site says 59,500.

Regarding the ownership of the ground, all the area in Maidan is owned by Indian Army and they have leased out the grounds to different sports bodies and clubs. This article from Times of India will clear any doubts. Both the ESPN Cricinfo.com & Yahoo! articles clearly have outdated information. The other website is not an RS at all. Please do not revert without citing valid & updated reliable sources. Thanks. Shovon (talk) 18:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey it is written on IPL's site that "it can now accommodate 90,000 spectators post renovations". Check out the write up with light yellow back ground. And on the telegraph it is about the ticket sales. Only corret thing is its owned by Indian Army, but still have a doubt. Iamgymman123 (talk) 04:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Have you actually been to Eden or to Kolkata ever? Otherwise you would not have had the doubts. Shovon (talk) 04:43, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
The content on the profile/history of the stadium in all the sites are some or the other version of wikipedia itself. Where's the Telegraph article on the ticket sales, which said that 90,000 spectators watched the match between KKR & MI? Shovon (talk) 04:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Refer to this article published in The Telegraph, Kolkata on 23rd May 2011 on the match between KKR & MI. It clearly says "63000 plus hearts present at the ground". Now, all your doubts have been cleared. Please do not change the information anymore. Thanks. Shovon (talk) 04:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Well my hometown is Kolkata and also have seen matches at Eden Gardens, it looks so huge. And check out the last IPL-4 match (league) crowd onYoutube, Listen after 8 minutes what commentators say. They say that, "The total crowd is more than 80,000". And about that telegraph: probably 63,000 were from kolkata and rest were from Mumbai.
Iamgymman123 (talk) 05:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

SOURCES:

PICTURE SOURCE:

In the picture you will find "CRICKET ASSOCIATION OF BENGAL" written on the board of the stadium, clearly Cricket Association Of Bengal is the owner of Eden Gardens.
LATEST SOURCE (VIDEO):

Listen to the commentators carefully (Listen them from 00:08:00). They say, "80,000 viewers came to watch this match".
NO - MORE - INCORRECT - EDITINGS - PLEASE!!
Iamgymman123 (talk) 06:08, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Learn the wikipedia policies first. Then contribute positively to the project. Unlike you, I am not here to become an Admin. Shovon (talk) 12:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

You dont agree with my latest sources and then you revert my editings back. What are you doing?? Firsly check the video out and listen to to what they say. You know better or the commentators who were LIVE out there. And for your information EspnCricinfo keeps updated sources not outdated. Watch this video on www.Youtube.com
(Listen carefully after 00:08:00). The video was uploded by the official Youtube partner ie. Indiatimes.
And thats the latest possible source.
Iamgymman123 (talk) 12:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I will again advice you to learn the policies first. I have provided reliable sources for each of my edits. Have you provide any? And no, commentators DO NOT know more than any other person. They are not there to check the tickets and count the number of spectators. Anyway, I have reported you to Admin's Noticeboard for Edit Warring and also requested the article to be protected. Shovon (talk) 13:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I have provided all the information to an admin, he will soon take up the matter.
Iamgymman123 (talk) 15:14, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Owner of Eden Gardens and Sources[edit]

Well guys the owner of the land (Maidan, Kolkata) is Indian Army but the owner of the stadium is Cricket Association of Bengal (CAB).
What I mean to say is, for construction/demolishing or other purposes in Maidan permission of Indian Army will be required. Futhurmore, the Cricket Association of Bengal pays rent for Eden Gardens to the Indian Army.

Check out all the sources:
SOURCES:

PICTURE SOURCE:

In the picture you will find CRICKET ASSOCIATION OF BENGAL written on the board of the stadium, clearly Cricket Association Of Bengal is the owner of Eden Gardens.
LATEST SOURCE (VIDEO):

Listen to the commentators carefully (Listen them from 00:08:00). They say, "80,000 viewers came to watch this match".
With regards,
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Fire to the stands[edit]

some idiotic editor wrote that crowd set fire to the stands in 1996, citing a cricinfo article that says no such thing. I have edited the relevant sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmonk11 (talkcontribs) 19:51, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Ranji Stadium?[edit]

I got a question on the name of the stadium. In cricket literature the name is clearly Eden Gardens. Nevertheless, there are other (minor) sources, who refer to it as Ranji Stadium. Is there any real proof of the correct name of this stadium (this is not so relevant for wp-en, but for wp-de it is necessary to have trustable sources).--Maphry (talk) 08:06, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Sayantivish (talk) 09:38, 22 May 2014 (UTC)== EDEN TIME ==

In Feb 2014 The Eden Gardens got a giant clock, joining a select league of stadia like the Arsenal football club stadium and the Sydney Cricket Ground.

Named as the "Eden Time", the seven feet diameter, all-weather clock - a joint initiative by the Cricket Association of Bengal (CAB) and Seiko Watch India - has been placed in the middle tier of the B.C. Roy Club House, above the sight screen.

The company has a similar clock at Barcelona FC’s Nou Camp Stadium. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sayantivish (talkcontribs) 09:30, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110418/jsp/calcutta/story_13867833.jsp