Talk:Education in the United States

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Class photo[edit]

Does the high school class like to see their picture on Wikipedia without being asked? Who is the photographer anyway, their teacher, a random stranger that passed by the classroom? And he gives it away, free to use (despite what Wikipedia claims), without caring about the privacy of the students? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.253.186.62 (talk) 19:44, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Maybe one of the students themselves? Is there any reason to assume the people in the photo didn't give permission any more than any other photo of people on Wikipedia.? 86.135.198.128 (talk) 12:09, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Education index of 99.9[edit]

"The United Nations assigned an Education Index of 99.9 to the United States, ranking it number 1 in the world, a position it shares with about 20 other nations.[1]"

- not true, at least not true according to the link given to support this claim. Education index for the US is 0.97 (which is a good result, but not number 1 in the world).

I remove this statement until valid evidence is provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.87.54 (talk) 06:39, 28 May 2007‎ (UTC)

Issues[edit]

I would suggest adding information under curriculum issues information on the achievement gap and English language learners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.104.239.13 (talk) 13:31, 18 January 2005‎ (UTC)

Headings and ordering[edit]

I have reworked to headings into a structure which should be clear, and have done a small amount of reordering (to keep K-12 funding with K-12 etc). I haven't added to removed any content. PeterEastern (talk)

Sexist sentence[edit]

"Parents and educators are concerned about how to motivate males to become better students", Implying that any gender is better or worse is simply unacceptable. Bumblebritches57 (talk) 23:48, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Article gives adequate, cited context. What change are you proposing to improve the article? Are you suggesting that the citation is not WP:RS? Student7 (talk) 19:28, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I read the source and did not find it relevant to the claim: "Parents and educators are concerned about how to motivate males to become better students, but this has not materialized in moving curriculum away from the prioritization of the advancement of females in society over their male counterparts." It was, in fact, a blog post about encouraging young boys to read. It did not contain information about curriculum. Prosekc (talk) 19:25, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Lisa Bloom is notable, so offsets the blog post, which I don't generally care for either. I think it is probably WP:RS in this context.
You are saying it is irrelevant to the material? non-WP:TOPIC? I've read better stuff about boys falling behind girls which is the basic problem. I think something should replace it, if it is deleted. I don't agree that any of this says "boys are better than/worse than girls." The material should report results (fairly objective) and what educators are trying to do (or not do, either of which tends to be more subjective since we don't really have nor can obtain specific facts on what is happening NOW) and let reader decide IMO. Student7 (talk) 20:29, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for weighing in. The source seems relevant to the first half of the sentence, "Parents and educators are concerned about how to motivate males to become better students"...but the second half of the sentence seems non-neutral and unsupported by the source. Nowhere did that blog post state that current school curricula prioritize "the advancement of females in society over their male counterparts." Prosekc (talk) 23:44, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree. The success of females at a higher level than males owes more to testosterone than to prejudice. Rick Norwood (talk) 21:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for everyone's comments! I've changed it per discussion. Student7 (talk) 23:03, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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Top colleges[edit]

US News is not a great source for demonstrating that the best colleges are in the US. 1) It is a US source and could easily be seen as prejudiced (for example, using standards other countries might not apply). 2) It is not a peer-reviewed source. To make a very wide claim like this a very good source is required. HGilbert (talk) 11:58, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

You have a very good point. But, why be ambiguous by saying "by one US magazine's standards" when we could simply mention whose "standard" it is? I changed the entire sentence to reflect that it's the US News who published the report. There is no need to say that "The US does better in tertiary education" based on what the report says. Let the readers be the judge of that. Also, I've removed the {{better source needed}} tag as it's no longer needed when we attribute the US News itself. -- Chamith (talk) 13:29, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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The link does not work. Rick Norwood (talk) 13:37, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

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The link does not work. Rick Norwood (talk) 13:38, 4 March 2016 (UTC)