Talk:Electronic throttle control

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drive-by-wire redirects here, but it should have its own page, because it seems to indicate that all controls are wire-only, including steering... Sbwoodside 20:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

This has been fixed Greglocock (talk) 21:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


The entire Failure Modes section isn't neutral at all and makes it sound like the very presence of electronic throttle control in inherently dangerous. (talk) 19:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I think you are being a bit oversensitive, but I do agree that section needs work. So start editing it! I'd love to find some comparitive reliabilty data for throttle cables and DbW. Greglocock (talk) 21:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I think the whole thing about "drivers don't know how much ETC is interfering with their driving" is extremely offensive to anyone who has any idea how to drive. (talk) 05:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Contact throttle position sensor and Hall effect sensor both have their advantage and disadvantage. The contact TPS is cheaper and the life is about 5 million cycles. The Hall effect sensor is much expensive and has longer life cycles but possibly can be under bad electromagnetic effects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:09, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

What is "cirdware"? I thought it may be some obscure term for the electronics hardware or firmware as this isn't my professional field but cirdware only returns google hits to this page and its mirror on zoomba. There are also ways of hardening against cosmic ray induced soft errors by increasing capacitance in the circuit, given the tiny glitch in throttle that results from a soft error, I'd think these were very acceptable to manufacturers rather than implementing the full on triple redundancy solution proposed. Feels like one persons biased opinion to me...

Another possible ETC failure mode can originate from single-bit soft errors caused by ionizing radiation in the vicinity of transistors in the digital cirdware from cosmic ray neutrons, so the only acceptable way to prevent this failure mode is to implement a minimum of triple redundancy in the digital electronics that comprise the ETC system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:09, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Well I've strated cleaning that section up. You are welcome to join in. Greglocock (talk) 04:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
There are numerous ways to harden circuitry against radiation. The amount of radiation a car is exposed to is orders of magnitude lower than that of an airliner at cruising altitude, which is further orders of magnitude lower than that of a spacecraft, both of which rely on far more, and far more complex, electronics than cars. Triple redundancy may be prudent in those applications, but it seems a little overkill in this situation to me. I'm going to reword that part so it doesn't prescribe a specific solution without anything to back it up. Alcapwned86 (talk) 02:12, 15 February 2013 (UTC)