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Sri Lankan elephant[edit]

  • From Sri Lankan elephant: Only 7% of males bear tusks.(ref= Jayewardene, J. (1994) The elephant in Sri Lanka. Wildlife Heritage Trust of Sri Lanka, Colombo) However, according to the elephant census conducted in 2011 by the Wildlife Conservation Department of Sri Lanka, only 2% of the total population are tuskers.
  • From Asian elephant Some males may also lack tusks... and are especially common among the Sri Lankan elephant population... (ref= Clutton-Brock, J. (1987). A Natural History of Domesticated Mammals. London: British Museum (Natural History). p. 208. ISBN 0-521-34697-5.)
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Matriarchal Nature[edit]

Theres a lot of feminism in this article, reflecting different myths initiated by the journalist Cynthia Moss, who seem to have misinterpreted elephants social life, describing elephants living in matriarchy etc, things which are not totally true, especially not with the Asian elephant, or that female elephants should have a higher social rank then males, something for sure the elephants does not agree with.

For sure real scientists like biologists would not have made such mistakes, but in the case of Cynthia Moss, it was a great help to creat those myths, which made her books very populair, and gave her the opening of starting a "research project" in Amboseli, although she herself lacks scientific biological education.

30 years later, we know better, but her false claims still cast a pseudo-scientific shadow on different kind of articles, also on Wikipedia.

For anyone interested in cleaning up the page from unscicentific feminism, I recommend reading scientifical papers instead of books by a journalist, such as Nature: All-Male Groups in Asian Elephants: A Novel, Adaptive Social Strategy in Increasingly Anthropogenic Landscapes of Southern India, Earth - Male elephants are not the loners we once thought - BBC and Male Elephants are More Social Than You Think

In my entire life working with elephants, and studying them on trips to Asia and Africa, I never saw an adult bull subordinate under a female. When a bull appears, in the wild or in a zoo, a common reaction for the females are to close up together and pee, excited, and clearly subordinate. Elephants are extreme examples of Sexual dimorphism, males sometimes having double the size of a female, and I guess only very brainwashed people would actually think that those males are living in matriarch, being dominated by females, and having a lower social status. Wikipedia should not spread such biased feministic lies, as presently stated in various articles concearning elephants, and their social life.

Dan Koehl (talk) 02:20, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Dan Koehl I read the second and third articles you linked, plus the intro and discussion of the Nature article. Admittedly it was a quick read, but I didn't find where they stated that males outranked or were dominant to females. Can you please be more specific about which parts of the Wikipedia article you disagree with, and what parts of which sources support your disagreement? Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 03:37, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear @Adrian J. Hunter: maybe this film answer your question? Please also note that the other females doesnt dominate that single bull. Dan Koehl (talk) 13:14, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Classification of Paleoloxodon[edit]

@Pauli133: The article Paleoloxodon states the following in the Taxonomy section (citations redacted):

In 1924, Hikoshichiro Matsumoto [ja] circumscribed Palaeoloxodon as a subgenus of Loxodonta. It included the "E. antiquus—namadicus group", and he designated "E. namadicus naumanni Mak." as its type species.

Palaeoloxodon was later thought to be a subgenus of Elephas, but this was abandoned by 2007. In 2016, a DNA sequence analysis of P. antiquus suggested that its closest extant relative may be the African forest elephant, L. cyclotis. The paper argues that P. antiquus is closer to L. cyclotis than L. cyclotis is to the African bush elephant, L. africana, thus invalidating the genus Loxodonta as currently recognized. Alternatively the genus Palaeoloxodon may be invalid, with its various members being better fitted to either Loxodonta or Elephas.

There does not appear to be a generally accepted scheme for classifying Paleoloxodon, and so stating that "Paleoloxodon is technically part of Loxodonta" is incomplete and misleading. - Donald Albury 14:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Sense of smell[edit]

Is it true that elephants can smell water from 100 miles away? This is just a thing I've heard, but if it is true it could go in the article. Vorbee (talk) 06:23, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Religious beliefs[edit]

This article talks about the religious beliefs of elephants - should it have a sub-heading "Elephants in religion"? Vorbee (talk) 06:58, 31 July 2019 (UTC) This is in the sub-section "Cultural depictions". Vorbee (talk) 07:43, 31 July 2019 (UTC)