Talk:Elizabeth I of England

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May not have been told[edit]

We are told that "Mary may not have been told of every plot". If the article is going to include everything Mary might and might not have known or been told, it will get very long.

Section on Trade does not mention start of trade with India, debate on trade with Russia,Turkey, Barbary, Morocco plus new subsections on America plus finances[edit]

In the article on the British East India Company, it says "This time they succeeded, and on 31 December 1600, the Queen granted a Royal Charter to "George, Earl of Cumberland, and 215 Knights, Aldermen, and Burgesses" under the name, Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading with the East Indies.[10] For a period of fifteen years the charter awarded the newly formed company a monopoly on trade with all countries east of the Cape of Good Hope and west of the Straits of Magellan." But there is no mention of trade with the East Indies in this article. Two sources are given for the statement: (1)The Register of Letters &c. of the Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading into the East Indies, 1600–1619. On page three, a letter written by Elizabeth I on 23 January 1601 ("Witnes or selfe at Westminster the xxiiijth of Ianuarie in the xliijth yeare of or Reigne.") states, "Haue been pleased to giue lysence vnto or said Subjects to proceed in the said voiadgs, & for the better inabling them to establish a trade into & from the said East Indies Haue by or tres Pattents vnder or great seale of England beareing date at Westminster the last daie of december last past incorporated or said Subjecte by the name of the Gournor & Companie of the merchaunts of London trading into the East Indies, & in the same tres Pattents haue geven them the sole trade of theast Indies for the terme of XVteen yeares ..." and (2)Imperial Gazetteer of India vol. II 1908, p. 6. Is that enough to include this significant action of Queen Elizabeth I in this article, under Wars and Overseas Trade? --Prairieplant (talk) 18:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Support the request specially the creation of a section covering the financial and administrative policy of the queen, a must in a otherwise excellent article.Maryheavenelisa (talk) 22:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Both of you are editors; feel free to start the section.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 00:16, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your excellent suggestion but it is important to have a consensus on this.Maryheavenelisa (talk) 03:29, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Personally, I think the sections on trade with Russia, Morocco and Turkey overplay those links, and it concerns me that the sources for those sections and the suggested addition are not biographies of Elizabeth, but works that have a focus elsewhere. This indicates that it might not be something generally covered in such depth in biographies of her. The article should reflect the relative importance of material as given in biographies. For example, this article only mentions the Americas once, in a single clause in one sentence, but the Barbary states get a paragraph and an image. I'm not sure that represents appropriate weight. DrKiernan (talk) 07:26, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I'd support DrKiernan's position on this. I've seen many biographies, including scholarly ones, and they seem to ignore this aspect. Also, at least the proposed section on India is cited only to primary sources, which is usually a good thing, except on Wikipedia. Buchraeumer (talk) 08:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I also support DrKiernan and I propose that he rewrite the trade section scaling down the Barbary states, Morocco, Russia and Turkey, to add a subsection on America and another one on the administration and finances (budget, poor law of 1601, 1563 industrial regulations plus monetary stabilization)Maryheavenelisa (talk) 08:55, 18 August 2015 (UTC)Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

The sources and references about administration and finances are available, in certain biographies there is a chapter about them, for ex the grant from parliament. This article is excellent, here we are talking about 10 to 20 lines max, not even a section which will make the article complete, it is not logic to talk so much about the trade relations with Russsia or morroco who are most of the time not mentionned in Elizabeth biographies and not mentionned in a few lines america and the finances of the queen which were so much important to her reign, as an example take any book about Us History, the first act which is mentioned on the modern period is the discovery of Virginia and Walter RaleighMaryheavenelisa (talk) 21:31, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Little control[edit]

We are told that Elizabeth had little control over Protestant piracy. We are not told that she benefited financially from slavery. Repeated attempts to put her slaving into the article have been deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:29, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

She was involved financially in the second and third slaving voyages of John Hawkins. The web-side of Plymouth Council is frank about this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2015[edit] (talk) 14:26, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, X mark.svg Not done because you haven't detailed what your request is. If there's a specific edit you'd like to make to the article, please feel free to post it here, along with any references required to support it, and it can be considered for including in the article. -- Euryalus (talk) 14:31, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2015[edit]

It says her 44 year reign when she was Queen for 45 years. Its minor but just looks bad. (talk) 18:34, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

44 years is closer to the actual length (44 years 4 months and 7 days) than 45 years. DrKay (talk) 18:39, 5 November 2015 (UTC)