Talk:Elizabeth the Cuman

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Mongol, Cumanian, or Hungarian?[edit]

Was Elizabeth the Cuman a Hungarian, Cumanian or Mongol, because the word "Chieftian" is usually connected to the Mongol Empire, and according to this article, her father was a chieftian, I don't see a valid reason why a Eastern Slavic European king would marry a Mongol or Cumanian, so can you try to change her father to "Unknown" and say she is in fact a Hungarian and change the article name to Elizabeth of Hungary, thank you! Signed, (talk) 23:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Alixapixle8[reply]

Nonsense! Just because you associate the word "chieftain" with the Mongols, doesn't mean that any such radical assumptions can be made, much less acted upon. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:45, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alixapixle8 -- Look at the 1230 A.D. map Colin McEvedy's "The Penguin Atlas of Medieval History" to see why a Hungarian might marry a Cuman... AnonMoos (talk) 08:53, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Female-line descendant[edit]

A piece of semi-trivia which some may find interesting, is that Elizabeth the Cuman is the female-line ancestor of Philippa of Hainault, the wife of Edward III of England, showing the mobility of some royal or high-ranking noble brides in that era: Philippa of Hainault → Joan of Valois, Countess of Hainaut → Margaret, Countess of Anjou → Mary of Hungary, Queen of Naples → Elizabeth the Cuman... AnonMoos (talk) 21:46, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]