Talk:Ellis Island

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Location[edit]

The history of state boundaries in and across Eliis Island is complicated and a bit confusing, and it seems that we need a discussion of how to best describe it. I don't think the article should include inacurate statements like "it is located in Jersey City". Fitnr 19:03, 16 November 2013 (UTC) Fitnr 19:03, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

The island is located within the borders of Jersey City. 3.3 acres of it are exclave that are territory of New York. Pretty straightforward.Djflem (talk) 19:41, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Do you think that there's an appreciable difference between "X is located in Jersey City" and "X is located within the borders of Jersey City"? I don't think that there is one, nor do I think that the typical reader would. Isn't it much simpler to say that the island is divided between NYC and JC? In my experience, exclave is more typically used for areas surrounded by the land of another jurisdiction. What's your source for applying it to Ellis Island? Fitnr 16:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Simpler, but imprecise. X is located in Jersey City, 3.3 acres of it are territory of NYC, surrounded, except for a short quai, by the land of New Jersey.Djflem (talk) 18:55, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
It's not imprecise at all to say that it's divided between NYC and Jersey City, it's indisputably true. On the other hand, it's clearly wrong to state that the island is in Jersey City. Fitnr 16:19, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

It's indisputably true that the island is located in JC and that on that island there are 3.3 landlocked acres that are territory of NYC, which is much more precise than "divided between". Djflem (talk) 21:25, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

What is with this[edit]

barn shaped scaffolding thing in front of the main building under that glorified wheelchair ramp? It's like the Louvre all over again. 71.34.240.167 (talk) 03:22, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Would you please explain what you mean? Maybe some temporary scaffolding during repair work connected with Sandy? --h-stt !? 11:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Lead Image[edit]

I have updated the lead image with a aerial photo of the whole island that also shows its proximity to the NJ shoreline and Jersey City. The picture of the building is not representative of the island as a whole. talk→ WPPilot  17:03, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

The article is not primarily about the island. It is about the immigration station which the older image illustrated much better, both in theme and technical merit. Your image might be useful in the geography or legal dispute sections - but not in the lead. Rmhermen (talk) 18:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Agree. Besides, the new aerial image, File:Ellis Island photo D Ramey Logan.jpg, shows New Jersey in the background as well. It's not a bad image, but honestly it's not the optimum image that we can have of Ellis Island, and when most people think of this island, they think of immigration, not of geographical features. Epicgenius (talk) 20:38, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
NBD. it looks fine in the location that it is in now. Cheers! talk→ WPPilot  14:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Ellis Island Museum - Peopling of America galleries[edit]

As I have received an email that this opens today - can I mention [1] for inclusion 'here or wherever'. Jackiespeel (talk) 16:35, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Artificial island[edit]

As seen here, a good portion of Ellis is an artificial island. What was once know as Island 2 and Island 3 were created separately and not as extension as of the original island. https://www.nps.gov/elis/learn/education/upload/9-12-Ellis-Island-Map.pdf Djflem (talk) 21:54, 15 June 2016 (UTC)