Talk:Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven

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Abuse[edit]

"Her father, a mason, sexually and physically abused her in her childhood, which possibly contributed to her later lifelong promiscuous behavior, prostitution, venereal disease, and numerous affairs with both men and women throughout her lifetime, including the writer Djuna Barnes."

I think this is kind of original research (the idea that her abuse led to prostitution and bisexaulity), having looked at the source. Andral (talk) 03:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

And slander?--Radh (talk) 14:20, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Not really. It's pretty well known that childhood sexual abuse usually leads to, or rather, victims often exhibit promiscuity and an inability to form meaningful long-lasting relationships. However, I agree that the statement needs a reference. Boneyard90 (talk) 12:34, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

The supposed abuse had no citation after 5 years so I have removed it. Nedrutland (talk) 08:26, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Divorces[edit]

Just curious when she divorced any of her husbands? She seemed to get married, but she never got divorced :) It'd be great to have citations and information about her relationships regarding this! SarahStierch (talk) 15:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

First divorce now referenced. No evidence of a divorce from Greve though.Nedrutland (talk) 08:26, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Translation of French[edit]

In the section Collage, Performance and Assemblage the translation of the French doesn't seem quite right to me.

"Une de mes amies sous un pseudonyme masculin, Richard Mutt, avait envoyé une pissotière en porcelaine comme sculpture" ("One of my female friends, who had adopted the pseudonym, Richard Mutt, sent me a porcelain urinal as a sculpture.")

I don't think that the original says it was sent *to him* does it?

Meaigs (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Agreed; now altered. Nedrutland (talk) 08:27, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

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