Talk:Emblem of Israel

{{fact}}

A resource for this article would be nice... I've added the {{fact}} to the article's claim that the olive branches symbolize peace since the assertion is made earlier that they represent the olive trees from the prophecy... Which is it? Tomer^talk 03:02, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

my source was the hebrew version of this. it is also in the article Olive branch and say it's origins is in greece. it is not strange for a symble to have many meanings. Jon513 20:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Designer

The article states that Willie Wind was the designer, but this isreali site states that the winning design was made by the brothers Maxim and Gavriel Shamir. Willie Wind is not mentioned at all. Anyone? --Stigmj 23:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The israeli site is much more reliable. Willie Wind is probally a hoax. Jon513 09:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Coat of Arms vs Emblem

The article's title is Emblem of Israel, and this fits with the Hebrew description. As an Israeli with Israeli education, I have never heard of the emblem referred to as a coat of arms.

Why does the article's body mention "the coat of arms of Israel"?

I think all mentions should be to the "emblem of Israel", and it's worth mentioning the Shield design suggests a coat of arms. --salty-horse (talk) 15:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

All the national emblem articles here started out with the title "Coat of arms of X", apparently, even though many of them are even less like traditional European coats of arms than is Israel's. See Category_talk:National_coats_of_arms#Terminology... AnonMoos (talk) 15:53, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a native English speaker, but in most books I've read, a country's emblem is referred to as "coat of arms". Apparently, that's the standard English terminology. DrorK (talk) 19:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

This page was moved in June 2007 by Doron (talk · contribs), I cannot find any discussion on the topic at that time. I have contacted Doron on his talk page, but as he hasn't been active in almost a year so I do not expect a response.

I would support moving it back, but I don't have strong feelings either way. Jon513 (talk) 22:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affair's website [1] calls it an "emblem", not a "coat of arms". Unless an official source can be shown (such as a law) that calls it a "coat of arms" in English, then we will have to go with what is out there. Many countries in Asia and the Middle East tend to have emblems or seals, rather than European-origin coats of arms. Gryffindor (talk) 12:29, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, Israel's emblem is on a shield, which right off makes it resemble a traditional coat of arms much more than the national emblems of many other countries do... AnonMoos (talk) 08:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

That may be, but where is the source on that? Gryffindor (talk) 11:20, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Other symbols

I have reverted the separate infobox for the seal of Mossad. The article is about the Emblem of Israel, and the added box was a duplication of the seal. anyways. Fry1989 ^eh? 03:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 (talk) 14:10, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

---

Emblem of Israel → Coat of arms of Israel – Let's call a spade a spade. This is clearly heraldry. The proper and precise expression is coat of arms, and that's been consistently used in names of similar articles. WP:UCRN Ssolbergj (talk) 22:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose It's clearly not a coat of arms. Although it may sometimes be referred to as a coat of arms it is technically an emblem as it was not designed to conform to traditional heraldic rules (e.g. blazon).--Labattblueboy (talk) 00:56, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment Then what should be made of the conventional blazon that is written in this article's coat of arms infobox? To me it seems to conform perfectly with heraldic rules. - Ssolbergj (talk) 19:59, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

• Strong oppose, it is always described as Semel Medeenat Yisrael, Symbol or Emblem of the State of Israel. The Hebrew for Coat of arms is Sign of nobility which takes things even further off field. You already have a compromise with "Emblem". Gregkaye (talk) 20:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

• Comment: I think either title would be OK; it is functionally and visually a coat of arms, but "emblem" fits better with the official Hebrew name. AnonMoos (talk) 02:28, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment: I see what you mean, though the norm in the English language, would be to refer to this type of symbol as a coat of arms. This is IMO the most important factor, and no semantics could possibly change the fact that this ought to be be regarded as a coat of arms, given its design and function as a national symbol. Coats of arms are a subset of emblems; the encyclopedic approach is probably to be specific. -Ssolbergj (talk) 00:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

---

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Flagette

Is this word correct?--Adûnâi (talk) 21:35, 23 March 2017 (UTC)