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Improvements[edit]

In the next few days, I will be reviewing the article and will make some changes to improve the article. Kgrr (talk) 17:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

School project edits[edit]

In the next few days this page will soon get a significant revision and subsequent editing from students participating in the Public Policy Initiative. This article was chosen because it is missing content or sourcing and has been relatively innactive. Their draft articles are being formed in their user space and will be transfered here. Links to the drafts can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Courses/Political Economy of Technology and Science fall 2010. I will not be allowing students to that first initial transfer unless their article has been significantly improved in references and content. Please provide comments on the significant revisions and help the students improve the Wikipedia formatting. However, I would greatly appreciate that any major content changes be suggested to the students on the talk page so that they get the experience editing collaboratively and through consensus and feedback. The final date for the project is Friday December 10, expect significant editing from now until then. Thank you.

If you have any questions feel free to raise them here or on my talk page, Myself and other WP:Online Ambassadors will be monitoring their edits, so we will also be able to help fix issues on the pages, Sadads (talk) 01:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

97.87.29.188 (talk) 23:06, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some of these maybe appropriate for Energy in the United States. 99.190.85.15 (talk) 03:34, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Energy security/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Does energy security needs re-definition with the climate challenges faced us, as I think it bears yet another dimension to be considered? I feel this article is focussing a lot on oil and gas, although there are other issues around security energy, including renewables, secondary sources, e.g. electricity... --Maryamy (talk) 15:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 15:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 14:30, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Dr. Molyneaux's comment on this article[edit]

Dr. Molyneaux has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:


"Although still a minority concern, the possibility of price rises resulting from the peaking of world oil production is also starting to attract the attention of at least the French government.[11]"

should read "The possibility of price rises resulting from the peaking of world oil production was a matter for some debate [11] before oil demand reduced in the wake of the GFC." http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/06/02/3767486/peak-oil-decline-financial-times/

"All the concern coming from security threats on oil sources long term security measures will help reduce the future cost of importing and exporting fuel into and out of countries without having to worry about harm coming to the goods being transported.[citation needed]". This does not make sense. I don't think anything is lost if the sentence is removed.

"The United Kingdom began exploiting North Sea oil and gas reserves, and became a net exporter of energy into the 2000s." Should read "The United Kingdom began exploiting North Sea oil and gas reserves, and became a net exporter of oil from 1981 to 2003. Citation https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/crude-oil-and-petroleum-production-imports-and-exports-1890-to-2011

"In other countries energy security has historically been a lower priority. The United States, for example, has continued to increase its dependency on imported oil[14] although, following the oil price increases since 2003, the development of biofuels has been suggested as a means of addressing this.[15]" should be changed to "As oil prices increased after 2003, the discussion around energy security in the United States increased [14]. However, as a technology breakthrough provided access to unconventional sources of oil and natural gas, the US has increased domestic supplies [1] and discussion about energy security has shifted to longer term concerns of how increases in global consumption will be met [2].

"Petroleum, otherwise known as "crude oil," has become the resource most used by countries all around the world including Russia, China (actually, China is mostly dependent on coal (70.5% in 2010)) and the United States of America. With all the oil wells located around the world energy security has become a main issue to ensure the safety of the petroleum that is being harvested. In the middle east oil fields become main targets for sabotage because of how heavily countries rely on oil. Many countries hold strategic petroleum reserves as a buffer against the economic and political impacts of an energy crisis. All 28 members of the International Energy Agency hold a minimum of 90 days of their oil imports, for example.[16][17]" should read "Petroleum, also known as "crude oil," has become a resource heavily used by countries all around the world. 31% of world production is sourced from the Middle East [3], and political instability in the region has been a cause of concern for energy security. After OPEC placed an embargo on exports to the US and other oil consuming nations in 1973, the oil consuming nations pursued a raft of measures to improve energy security including the formation of the International Energy Agency (IEA) with objectives to secure access to reliable and ample oil supplies and to establish and maintain effective emergency response capabilities. Under the 1974 accord creating the Agency, member countries agreed to hold oil stocks equivalent to at least 90 days of each prior year’s net imports and – in the event of a major supply disruption – to release stocks, restrain demand or increase supply, or some combination of these three. [4]

"The value of such reserves was demonstrated by the relative lack of disruption caused by the 2007 Russia-Belarus energy dispute, when Russia indirectly cut exports to several countries in the European Union.[citation needed]" should be replaced with The first activation of the IEA emergency response system was just prior to the first Gulf War in 1991. Thereafter, releases followed hurricanes Katrina and Rita which damaged Gulf of Mexico oil infrastructure in 2005, and during civil war in Libya which halted Libyan production in 2011 amid growing global demand. "http://www.iea.org/ieaenergy/issue7/the-first-40-years-of-the-iea.html". Disputes in energy rich areas like the Russia-Belarus energy dispute have not caused problems with energy supply to the European Union but have strengthened EU resolves to improve energy security and diversify supply away from Russia [5]

"Compared to petroleum, reliance on imported natural gas creates significant short-term vulnerabilities. Many European countries saw an immediate drop in supply when Russian gas supplies were halted during the Russia-Ukraine gas dispute in 2006.[citation needed]" should be removed as it doesn't really add much to the discussion

"Natural gas has been a viable source of energy in the world. Consisting of mostly methane, natural gas is produced using two methods: biogenic and thermogenic. Biogenic gas comes from methanogenic organisms located in marshes and landfills, whereas thermogenic gas comes from the anaerobic decay of organic matter deep under the Earth's surface. Russia is the current leading country in production of natural gas.[citation needed]" should be changed to "Natural gas has been a viable source of energy in the world. Consisting of mostly methane, natural gas is produced using two methods: biogenic and thermogenic. Biogenic gas comes from methanogenic organisms located in marshes and landfills, whereas thermogenic gas comes from the anaerobic decay of organic matter deep under the Earth's surface.

Until 2008 Russia was the leading producers of Natural Gas but access to unconventional sources of natural gas in the US has turned the US into the leading producer "

"One of the biggest problems currently facing natural gas providers is the ability to store and transport it. With its low density, it is difficult to build enough pipelines in North America[clarification needed] to transport sufficient natural gas to match demand. These pipelines are reaching near capacity and even at full capacity do not produce the amount of gas needed.[citation needed]" should be removed and replaced with

"Transporting natural gas was traditionally done through pipelines which at times restricted supply due to infrastructure constraints. When natural gas is cooled to -260 degrees Fahrenheit, it becomes a liquid that is 1/600th of its gaseous volume, making it easier to transport via vessel. As domestic production of natural gas from unconventional sources increased, the US has started constructing LNG terminals to export excess supply of natural gas." [6]


We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.

Dr. Molyneaux has published scholarly research which seems to be relevant to this Wikipedia article:


  • Reference : Lynette Molyneaux & Liam Wagner & Craig Froome & John Foster, 2012. "Resilience and electricity systems: a comparative analysis," Energy Economics and Management Group Working Papers 15, School of Economics, University of Queensland, Australia.

ExpertIdeasBot (talk) 13:01, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Student project[edit]

There are certain areas of concern in this article including, references, citations, value statements, and a general lack of cohesion.

In terms of references, there are several citations that are lacking, do not work, or lead to poor quality sources, such as youtube.

An example is citation #2: " Michael Ruppert (2009). Collapse. Event occurs at 27:50. There are ten calories of hydrocarbon energy in every calorie of food consumed in the industrialized world."

And here are some statements that are lacking citations:

  • "Russia is the current leading country in production of natural gas.[citation needed]"
  • "One of the biggest problems currently facing natural gas providers is the ability to store and transport it. With its low density, it is difficult to build enough pipelines in North America[clarification needed] to transport sufficient natural gas to match demand. These pipelines are reaching near capacity and even at full capacity do not produce the amount of gas needed.[citation needed]"

Furthermore, the phrasing of information relies too heavily on value statements, taking the article away from a neutral tone. Here are some examples: "Perhaps most alarmingly, peak oil expert Michael Ruppert has claimed that for every calorie of food produced in the industrial world, ten calories of oil and gas energy are invested in the forms of fertilizer, pesticide, packaging, transportation, and running farm equipment.[2]"

  • "These classes of ship provide the core of the Navy's power, and as such are the single most noteworthy application of nuclear power in that country."

These issues coupled with fragmented information causes a lack of cohesion, thus the article needs added information or rephrasing to tie the topics together. [1] --Kepanian (talk) 00:05, 3 November 2016 (UTC)kepanian[reply]

References

@Kepanian: Hi! Glad that you came by to critique the article. I adjusted the spacing on your comment a bit. I would highly recommend taking the opportunity to update the article yourself: both your feedback, and the expert review above have some very actionable edits, that would be great, in terms of changing the tone of the article and providing better research to support the page. Sadads (talk) 02:52, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Sadad thank you for the help, I am still learning all the different options available in writing on Wikipedia. I do plan on addressing these issues and adding more information on Energy Security to what is already mentioned in the article. I want to emphasize the focus on the overall problem of energy security as an efficiency issue, using the logic that natural resources are characterized typically as a common pool resource or a public access good. [1][2][3]Once clarifying the problem involved in energy security, I will add more coverage on the existing solutions varying reliable sources discuss on energy security, including natural resource management and alternative energy to convey how countries can or plan to address energy security as an institutional market failure. Kepanian (talk) 18:39, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-pool_resource
  2. ^ Weimer, David. Policy Analysis: Concepts and Practice. Routledge. pp. 85–114.
  3. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_resource#Management

IPCC Fifth Assessment Report[edit]

The IPCC WG3 AR5 Report[1] contains useful material on energy security. The IPCC defines energy security as:

The goal of a given country, or the global community as a whole, to maintain an adequate, stable, and predictable energy supply. Measures encompass safeguarding the sufficiency of energy resources to meet national energy demand at competitive and stable prices and the resilience of the energy supply; enabling development and deployment of technologies; building sufficient infrastructure to generate, store and transmit energy supplies; and ensuring enforceable contracts of delivery.[1]: 1261 

In addition, section 6.6.2.2 on p475 covers the topic of energy security in more detail. Someone might like to work this information into the article. Best wishes. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 13:56, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b IPCC (2014). Edenhofer, Ottmar; Pichs-Madruga, Ramón; Sokona, Youba; Farahani, Ellie; Kadner, Susanne; Seyboth, Kristin; Adler, Anna; Baum, Ina; Brunner, Steffen; Eickemeier, Patrick; Kriemann, Benjamin; Savolainen, Jussi; Schlömer, Steffen; von Stechow, Christoph; Zwickel, Timm; Minx, Jan C (eds.). Climate Change 2014: Mitigation of Climate Change Working Group III: Contribution to the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (PDF). Cambridge, United Kingdom and New York, NY, USA: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-107-65481-5. Retrieved 2016-11-14.

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Broader definition[edit]

Should the definition of energy security be broader? Given for example, the Sustainable Development Goals, which list access to energy for all as a goal. (see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_Development_Goals#Goal_7:_Affordable_and_clean_energy)Accon4 (talk) 16:31, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]