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Computer & IT Revolution[edit]

My edit [[1]] has been deleted on the grounds 'Not appropriate for that section' which seems extraordinary considering that the new edit is highly relative and appropriate following on from the citations referring to the transition to a Industrial society. Currently, the lede brakes to a sudden halt at England's Industrial Revolution; why just that in the opening paragraph? With respect the revert suggests that England came to an abrupt scientific and cultural halt in 1760. Also, my edit was reverted because.....of a Wiki page that doesn't seem to exist. As a result I will leave the article as it is for a few days giving the editor who reverted time to form a response. Twobellst@lk 18:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Opening description query[edit]

England is a country with a very colourful past, and yet the opening paragraphs of the article are lacking in substance. I'm aware many of the editors of this page feel England is a 'region' rather than a country worthy of a proper page - but if we compare this page to Scotland's then we can see the difference. Just saying. It could do with a bit more spark in the description, additional info in the infoboxes, and much more content in the history section. 2,888 words is hardly fitting for a nation with such a varied history as England. For example, only 223 words are devoted to Roman Britain! And only 56 are given to the Napoleonic Wars! Thanks, H - H (talk) 15:54, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

If you have any ideas for a change to the lead based, on reliable sources, you are welcome to suggest it here, as for the history this is just meant to be an overview and the detail is in History of England. MilborneOne (talk) 16:01, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Only problem is that visitors will not instinctively click on the link for the history of England page, and thus they are missing out on a great deal of information that is very relevant to the formation of England as a country and beyond. I think maybe we should expand the history article on this page to include a lot more detail. - H (talk) 13:24, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
There is little point in repeating detail from another article into this one. Articles get too large as it is. The whole point of having a main article link is to reduce the page size. Richard Harvey (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2015[edit]

Why is the GDP listed in dollars? This is an article written about Britain, so pounds (£) should be the default unit. The entire article has also been written in British English, further fueling the reason for my suggested change. If all countries were to use the US dollar to weigh gdp then this wouldn't be an issue, however they don't. Each country uses their own monetary unit to describe their own GDP, giving no reason for this unorthodox change of standard






Absenteee (talk) 09:38, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I think the reasoning behind the use of USD in the infobox is that the authoritative sources we draw on for GDP rankings also release their figures in USD - the IMF, World Bank, the World Fact Book, and the UN. As far as I can tell, the rest of the article does use pounds instead. If you look at any other nation's infobox here on en.wiki, you'll see that England is not being singled out for this - GDP is described in USD for every nation Cannolis (talk) 13:52, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2015[edit]

142.26.199.182 (talk) 17:41, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Declined - You dont appear to have made any request. MilborneOne (talk) 17:44, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

If there's no English Royal Banner, how can there be a Flag of England?[edit]

I've been reading the past discussions on the inclusion (and removal) of the Royal Banner of England and it seems the conclusion is it shouldn't be featured because it's no longer in official use. So why is the Flag of England there? That neither is in official use. In fact, one of the only reasons I've seen as justification is a misguided assumption is that flies on Tower Bridge. Which, of course, it doesn't that would be the flag of the City of London. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.192.35 (talk) 18:07, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Probably because the flag of England is still used in things like to identify the England team at the Commonwealth Games and is allowed by the DVLA on number plates of cars registered in England, for example. MilborneOne (talk) 19:24, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Bank of England[edit]

"The Bank of England, founded in 1694 by Scottish banker William Paterson, is the United Kingdom's central bank."

Founded by Scottish banker William Paterson? No, not quite. Checking the Bank of England Wikipedia lists "The establishment of the bank was devised by Charles Montagu, 1st Earl of Halifax, in 1694, to the plan which had been proposed by William Paterson three years before, but not acted upon." Indeed, Paterson's entry itself lists him as a co-founder, not a sole founder.

It therefore seems rather disingenuous to try and pass it off as a creation belonging solely to him. If anything it should mirror the same sentence found on the Bank of England page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.192.35 (talk) 11:46, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

The statement could do with a citation but wikipedia is not a reliable source. MilborneOne (talk) 19:17, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_England#cite_note-16 --89.168.192.35 (talk) 08:30, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Mobile app sub title[edit]

On the official Wikipedia app, the subtitle displayed for England is "Country in the United Kingdom". For Scotland and Wales it is "Country in Northern Europe, part of the United Kingdom". I propose the change is also made for the England wikipedia page for consistency. --89.168.192.35 (talk) 18:16, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Nothing to do with this article the subtitle comes from wikidata, although I cant see why it should change. MilborneOne (talk) 19:15, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Apologies, I had no idea it wasn't sourced from the article. --89.168.192.35 (talk) 08:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Done. Also other issues such as different "British English" description for no apparent reason, and "north-west Europe" instead of "Northern Europe", the latter being a cultural area usually referring to the nordic countries. Rob984 (talk) 21:10, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. --89.168.192.35 (talk) 08:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)