Talk:Eric S. Raymond

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Not much about the man[edit]

While this article covers some professional info, it lacks pertinent information about the Eric the man. His publicly stated views from 2001 to present day have caused controversy and have been extremely important in defining how he is viewed in the real world. I think to leave out such important details makes the article incomplete and borders on Whitewash_(censorship). Exohuman (talk)

Now that he's publicly supporting neofascist Vox Day's so-called SJW list as a blacklist in tech (source: ) I think this got a lot more relevant. (Quote from the post: "Name them and shame them. Do not hire them unless you want your organization politically disrupted and its productivity destroyed.") (talk) 18:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
I dispute and reject your characterization of Vox Day as a "neofascist". "Fascist" is commonly used as an epithet without definition by anyone that left-wing fanatics want to smear. Shame on you. 2601:647:4F00:39CA:CDF4:F3E9:8F3F:1A08 (talk) 16:46, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


The information on Nedanet and Raymond's involvement in it is false and doesn't belong on Wikipedia, IMO. It's a made-up self-promotional material. First of all he didn't "help found" anything. He only joined the team as a spokesperson [as he claims], but most importantly, this vague project never really existed outside of a static website (which is a dead link for some time now). You can't find anything about this project from any credible third party sources.Omid.espero (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, the hoax existed[1]. Shouldn't the article mention that? This is part of what ESR really is. --damiens.rf 17:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps the article should talk about it but a better source is needed to back the claim. The source you cite here is just an incidental mention. Do you have a better explanation? Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I'll have to do some research. I remember the hoax and the hype at the time, with some sites (Wikipedia included) just reverberating Eric's self-promotion. --damiens.rf 05:02, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
The hype was documented at a failed AFD for Nedanet I started at the time. --damiens.rf 13:15, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Damiens.rf The problem here is just the sourcing. It only takes one good source to back a statement. The content just added and removed was mostly from self-published sources. Add something again, except this time omit those sources and have a citation for whatever you add. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:43, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Anarcho-Capitalism and Libertarian[edit]

There is too little mention of Raymonds philisophical and political conventions. Specifically that he is an anarchist, and libertarian — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:25, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Is there any reason at all to think that his political views are at all notable? In my opinion the whole section on his politics should be deleted. Right now his own blog is being cited as support, which I think violates the guidelines on using primary sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:20, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Subject of article being cited[edit]

The subject of the article authored many of the sources cited here. Some of these sources and the statements backed by them may not be suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia per WP:SELFPUBLISH. Many self-published sources are fine - I did not check these. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:57, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

If I read the rules correctly, none of these instances clearly violates the letter of WP:SELFPUB. However, I suspect it's a violation of the spirit of the guidelines to have an article of this size where 12 out of 23 sources cited were written and/or are controlled by the subject. Anyone else think we should condense this a bit?
I'm not suggesting we need to be drastic; just gently cut some of the blubber. Consider, for example, the sentence about "Linus' Law," a failed self-promotional neologism that has never had any uptake. If we cut just this one sentence, the number of WP:SELFPUB sources would drop from 12/23 to 11/22, i. e. to a mere 50%. Weirvile (talk) 09:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Page closed[edit]

This wikipedia page is being closed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:57, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

  • An article's subject is not entitled to control its contents. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 21:16, 24 November 2016 (UTC)