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Eleusinian Mysteries? Can someone please give specific references as to how Eros was worshiped during the Eleusinian Mysteries? I have never heard of this being part of the cult. Henryvick304 (talk) 22:20, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
According to tradition which was made by Eratosthenes, Eros was principally the patron of male love, while Aphrodite ruled the love between men and women. His statue could be found in the palaestrae or wrestling schools, one of the principal venues for men to associate with their beloveds, and it was to him that the Spartans sacrificed before battle. Meleager records this role in a poem preserved in the Greek Anthology: "The Cyprian queen, a woman, hurls the fire that maddens men for women; but Eros himself sways the passion for males." (Mousa Paidiké, 86)
seemed an insufficiently substantiated opinion, given the numerous examples to the contrary: i.e., Eros giving rise to love in men for women, or women for men, (such as the following examples from http://www.theoi.com/Ouranios/Eros.html):
Seneca, Phaedra 290 ff : "He [Eros] smites maids’ breasts with unknown heat, and bids the very gods leave heaven and dwell on earth in borrowed forms."
Nonnus, Dionysiaca 7. 110 ff (trans. Rouse) (Greek epic C5th A.D.) : "Now Eros the wise, the self-taught, the manager of the ages, knocked at the gloomy gates of primeval Khaos. He took out the divine quiver, in which were kept apart twelve firefed arrows for Zeus, when his desire turned towards one or another of mortal women for a bride.
Ovid, Metamorphoses 10. 525 ff (trans. Melville) (Roman epic C1st B.C. to C1st A.D.) : "Once, when Venus’son [Eros] was kissing her, his quiver dangling down, a jutting arrow, unbeknown, had grazed her breast. She pushed the boy away. In face the wound was deeper than it seemed, though unperceived at first. [And she became] enraptured by the beauty of a man [Adonis]."
Nonnus, Dionysiaca 15. 220 ff : "The deceiver Eros excited the longing herdsman [Hymnos], and shook him with yet stronger passion [for the nymphe Nikaia]."
Nonnus, Dionysiaca 48. 470 ff : "Eros drove Dionysos mad for the girl [Aura] with the delicious wound of his arrow, then curving his wings flew lightly to Olympos. And the god roamed over the hills scourged with a greater fire.
Musaeus, Hero and Leander 20 ff (Greek poetry C5th - 6th A.D.) : "And Eros (Love) upstrained his bow, shot forth a single shaft into both cities together, kindling a youth [Leander] and maiden [Hero]."
Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica 3. 25 ff (trans. Rieu) (Greek epic C3rd B.C.) : "[Hera addresses Athene :] `We must have a word with Aphrodite. Let us go together and ask her to persuade her boy, if that is possible, to loose an arrow at Aeetes’ daughter, Medea of the many spells, and make her fall in love with Iason . . .’
- All of those are sources from the First Century CE or later, whereas Eratosthenes was a Hellene of the 3rd Century BCE, and therefore a better source on Greek religion and myth before the Roman conquest (and imposition of foreign cultural perspectives) 184.108.40.206 (talk) 09:28, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Both of these editors are correct, however, (talk) cannot keep the other definition out of this page. It is a well known historic fact and being uncomfortable or just disagreeing with centuries worth of material simply by stating the sources were conquerors and re-wrote the definition is completely original research and unacceptable.--220.127.116.11 (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
No mention of Plato's Symposium?! (Specifically, the parts where Socrates and Diotime speak.) Mat334 01:26, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
No, no, just untainted gay delirium here. F_Cangon
The Greek spelling of "eros" would be a nice addition to the article. I believe it's ερως (not sure though)
PEOPLE THINKS THAT LOVE IS RIGHT FOR YOU FOR SOMPEOPLE IT IS BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE IT AINT
Eros is a far more ancient diety than those gods of the Pan-Hellenic pantheon, this article does not reflect this properly
Links to http://ancientrome.ru/
That`s not spam, but illustrative material, so why do you think that`s spam? It doesn`t consist of advertising links or advertising text and totally corresponds to the refferences and supplements them. Wikipedia has lotta other exemples of links with illustrative material, so this site isn`t the exception. See for instance Forum Romanum: there are lotta links of different sites but the links of ancientrome.ru are deleated. That was http://ancientrome.ru/art/artworken/result.htm?alt=Roman+Forum&pnumber=20 --User:The one who wants to make Wiki better 3:26, 9 January 2007
The elder Eros?
I've just been reading about the primordial Gods - Chaos, Nox etc - who were around even before Uranus, father of Kronos. One of this earlier family appears to be called "Eros" too - presumably, he ruled over the passions before they became the preserve of the younger gods. In these essays, this god is often referenced as "The elder Eros". I came to this page via a redirect from Eros (god). I have a feeling someone may have turned a stub into a redirect, being unaware of the existence of two different greek gods, both called Eros. This Eros (older than Zeus) certainly was not the offspring of Aphrodite and Ares. PaulHammond (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
In the intro, first line of second paragraph reads: "According to tradition which was made by Eratosthenes, Eros was principally the patron of the people who like to have computers, while Aphrodite ruled the love between men and women." I assume this was somebody fooling around, so I thought I'd bring it to attention, I'd fix it myself but I'm just beginning figuring out how to edit. Also, I agree with the above posts that Eros was nowhere near only the patron of homosexual love, but love in general- heterosexual love playing just as large a role. See the 2nd century Greek novel Daphnis and Chloe for examples in this if you want Alex8541 (talk) 16:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)