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Where was the Battle of Köse Dağ[edit]

The Encyclopaedia of Islam states that Köse Dağ is a “land-corridor some 50 miles/80 km. to the north-west of Sīwās” and, under “Kaykhusraw II” in the same work, “between Erzindjan and Sivas.” Cahen in Pre-Ottoman Turkey locates the battle in “the defile of Köse Dagh, in the province of Erzinjān.” My cherished Turkish atlas, Köy Köy Türkiye: Yol atlası (Istanbul 2006), puts Kösedağ Geçidi (Köse Dağ Pass) to the south of Gümüşhane and well to the north of Erzincan. In 13th century terms, this would be close to the lands of the Empire of Trebizond and nowhere near the caravan route between Sivas and Erzincan. Can anyone produce a credible source in any language that offers more precision? Thanks Aramgar 16:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

The information above is corroborated by Anthony Bryer and Richard Winfield, The Byzantine Monuments and Topography of the Pontos, vol. 1, (Washington D.C.: Dumbarton Oaks, 1985) 172, 353. Aramgar 21:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Armenian Spelling[edit]

The Armenian and Greek names, which are historical names, are mentioned in the article. But the editors placed it in the head of the article. What is the purpose of doing this? They did not specify a reason to do so. This change is now Wikipedia:Neutral point of view violating. There are no Armenian population in the city of Erzincan. Or it is not an Armenian spoken or official language.--ArslanYabgu (talk) 12:03, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

The alternative name is sourced and there is article content on it. Having alternative or local or historical names in the lede is an accepted practice and is seen on many articles. See WP:PLACE. The function of the lede is not to describe a place as it is now, it is there to summarize the article, and NPOV would be violated by manipulating article lede content to exclude historical data or names. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 17:28, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

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