Talk:Eugene N. Borza

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Borza's recognition[edit]

Regarded by whom and by what standards? As per WP:AWW ("...is widely regarded as..."), I will remove this bit, unless someone else offers something constructive. I'm not doing it now, although I could, because I want others to debate on this. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 23:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Removing this bit. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 00:54, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


Here are some links that show who regards him "widely"...

http://www.archaeological.org/webinfo.php?page=10224&lid=9

"He is an authority in the history and archaeology of Ancient Macedonia and the Classical Revival in Greece. "

and this:

http://www.cams.psu.edu/resources/scholarships.shtml

"The Eugene N. Borza Award in Classics and Ancient Mediterranean Studies honors and recognizes outstanding achievement by undergraduate and graduate students enrolled in the College of the Liberal Arts at Penn State who are participating in the education abroad program in Athens. The award was created by and is named for Professor Emeritus of Ancient History Eugene N. Borza, an expert on Greek history-- particularly Macedonia and its rulers--who was a member of the Department of History faculty for many years and also served as Head of the Department of Classics and Ancient Mediterranean Studies. Professor Borza initiated the Athens Program and directed it for two years."

and this:

http://media.www.unogateway.com/media/storage/paper968/news/2002/01/29/News/Leading.Macedon.Expert.To.Speak.At.Uno.Feb.5-2545080.shtml

"Leading Macedon expert to speak at UNO Feb. 5"

and this:

http://www.athenscentre.gr/Guest%20Speakers.htm

"Eugene Borza- historian, expert in Macedonian Civilization."

etc, etc, etc.

And as I pointed out on the talk page of Ancient Macedonians, a book has been published in honour of his contributions to the study of ancient Macedon.

http://community.livejournal.com/megalexandros/57510.html

"Macedonian Legacies: Studies in Ancient Macedonian History and Culture in Honor of Eugene N. Borza"

gingervladGingervlad (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Academic recognition means "impact". There are tools for determining a scholar's impact. If you can provide such references, please do so. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 23:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I realise that you do not care for Borza..and I would be curious to see what tools you are referring to. What is the "impact" you are looking for? Is this, respectfully, something you have decided yourself?
Do the opinions of other scholars matter? That he is still included in the syllabus in classes? Is his work cited in other published materials?
Really the onus is on you to show that he hasn't had an impact. Or that any of the above are wrong. Can you show references that prove Borza has not had an impact?
See even in the coffee table book on Alexander by Laura Foreman. She asked Borza, not others, to guide her in the book. (note: While the book is lush with illustrations and I own it for that reason, her conclusions don't jibe with mine, or perhaps even Borza's as he notes in the book.) This is a book aimed at a general audience.
http://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Conqueror-Laura-Foreman/dp/0306812932
Scholars such as Badian, Green, Heckel, Burstien, Anson, Palagia, Carney, Thomas, and on and on have recognised his work. Some of the same names on the letter to Obama, from Stephen Miller's site are the same ones honoring Borza in the new Festschrift. And the Fellowship in his honor noted above, again...this denotes someone who has had impact.
Do not discount his "impact" outside the Greek/Macedonian problem, because, as I have said here and elsewhere, his work has been misappropriated.
Even in the past year, National Geographic has had an article about his and Palagia (again, a signatory on the letter to Obama) opinions on the occupant of Tomb II. This collaboration should tell you something. That he is still active and that other recognised scholars in his filed do not consider him "fringe'.
gingervladGingervlad (talk) 19:53, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


Expanding the article[edit]

I plan to start an decent expansion of the Borza article if no one has any objections. I'll give it a few days and would appreciate any comments (and help!). Gingervlad (talk) 15:35, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Dead or Alive?[edit]

The article says "was an emeritus professor". Is he alive? The title of Emeritus is lifelong.