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Conspiracy vs Demographic Islamification of Europe[edit]

For Eurabia, does it necessarily involve conspiracy? I one simply believes that Muslims will continue to immigrate to Europe and eventually outnumber native Europeans, would this be considered Eurabia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr1s0n3r 0f l1f3 (talkcontribs) 22:57, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Goodness, if they loved the arab system so much they would join it directly. Serten (talk) 06:50, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Eurafrique and other predecessors[edit]

The funny thing with Eurabia is that we have an article about a conspriation theory but not one about the real plan, called Eurafrique with large scale technology dreams like Atlantropa and more currently, Desertec as a base. Its like talking only about fake moon landings and not mentioning that there have been actual plans to bring people to other planets ;) Take [http://scholar.google.de/scholar?hl=de&as_sdt=0,5&q=euro+afrique+atlantropa a scholar search with Atlantropa and Eurafrique and you receive a wast array of studies about the setup of the West European community and the French and german Eurafrica concepts in the 1950's, which were rather crucial and not at all fringy for the EU. That said, either integrate that there or have a separate article. To have more of the actual plans for Eurafrique and minor concepts as Mussolinis Italy's Mare Nostrum would help as well to put Bat Ye'Or in a more human perspective, as she didnt invent something new, but retold a rather old story in her own words. Serten (talk) 18:43, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Serten Why you have added the category fringe theory? Bladesmulti (talk) 04:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
I saw it had been erased during my edits and thought it was still appropriate. Its not fringy in the sense of lack of public attention, but completely out of question in academia. Serten (talk) 04:42, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Who added it? See [1], it wasn't there. I know it not supported by academics, it is just an observation. Bladesmulti (talk) 05:13, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Might have been an error, thought I spotted a template, but there wasn't any. I would consider ist closer to Alba gu bràth - will say its well with other political slogans ;) Serten (talk) 06:46, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for writing back, political slogan will work. Bladesmulti (talk) 06:57, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Youre welcome, starting a section on the talkpage is always good before changing an article significantly. Serten (talk) 14:06, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Critical comment on Critical comment[edit]

Basically, in any WP article, any "critically comment" section can easily be erased or used for the useful part, as it tends to be a mere collection of orphaned statements. Take this Ralph Peters, which is no analyst but a Radio Eriwan / Fox News fancy story writer mirroring a sort of And you are lynching Negroes narrative back to Europe. Thats part of the conspiracy theories spread from the mother of all, but no serious point of view. Serten (talk) 02:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I support the deletion of the Ralph Peters §. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
I have dome some clean up and reduced redundancies. Peters is now in the spread conspiracy sections, where he imho belongs. I have as well reduced some of the "see also " links, e.g. 'Finlandization' has no relation to Eurabia, esceept for both being a rather offensive term for anyone aware about the actual history of Finland and Eurafrika. In case of your additions, Visite fortuitement prolongée the links were already in the text.Serten (talk) 01:02, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Your 628566914 change is huge, therefor hard to check. I wish you made it by several steps. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Finlandization is a rather offensive term for Finland submitting itself to USSR, isn't it? Eurabia is a rather offensive term for Europe submitting itself to Arab countries. "Finlandization" link is accurate in my opinion. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

"Political demography" link may be accurate. Whats the pro and con? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I have not added any material to the article since months. Which additions of me are you talking about? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I have to apologize first as I mentioned the links at Eurafrique, not the ones here. With regard to Finland, its the only country taking part in WWII that got rid of Russians and Germans occupation troops on its own, and still have and use land mines, against all pressure. Submission is something different. Political demography is more of a science, but I linked Demographic threat. OK? Serten (talk) 21:06, 7 October 2014 (UTC)


I think – whatever the articles on W are about – that demographical forecasts have to emanate from the latest statistics. Many articles describe prognoses which are extrapolations of 8 - 15 years old statistics. This article is no exception. A net-based encyclopedia has the advantage to always be updated in statistics and scientific knowledge, so it's bad when facts that can lead to flammable discussions are too old. The statistics are usually public documents in Westerns democracies. --Caspiax 19:50, 13 November 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caspiax (talkcontribs)

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