Talk:Exotic pet

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Amero-Centric[edit]

Perhaps some things on what is considered an exotic pet worldwide would be beneficial —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.234.96 (talk) 20:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Biased sections[edit]

Let's keep this article unbiased, or at least present BOTH sides of the issue. In addition, some of it is misinformation and should not be included in this article. Please see the NPOV page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view

Certainly the article should be kept unbiased. The correct way to do that, however, is not to remove the information you don't agree with. Exploding Boy 17:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV tag[edit]

Please explain your reasons for placing this tag on the page, or it will be removed. Exploding Boy 04:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Changes 05/07/08[edit]

This article was a mess and it still needs lots of improvement. Most of the previous references went to a site whose domain is now for sale. Others were not to the original source, but to an advocacy site (although they were accurate, I changed them to the primary source or published media account). I added a reflist, formatted the refs, and deleted most of the existing "references" since the sites either did not work or were commercial or linkspam. I added a See Also section for the one link that seemed appropriate. I added a bunch of fact tags since the referencing of this article is pretty poor. Please review these changes and make any corrections or add references or additional content. I know there have been "epidemics" of disease because of exotic pets (turtles, birds, monkey pox, etc.) so maybe those should be included. Many municipalities have banned various pets, so maybe that should be included. I have heard that the exotic pet trade is more profitable worldwide than drug smuggling, which is hard to believe, but if there is a citation for this, it would be interesting to include.Bob98133 (talk) 13:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Ferrets[edit]

Ferrets aren't exotic pets. They are common pet animals, whoever put ferrets on the lists of exotic pets probably believes the Soviet Union still exists & that communists are everywhere & secretly controlling the hippies that whoever put ferrets on the list believes are still a large segment of young people when of course nowadys none of this true. Series premiere (remake) (talk) 06:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Non-human primates worldwide view[edit]

For the person who put the {{globalize}} tag on the section "Non-human primates", what worldwide view are you looking for? Yes, pet primates are quite popular because they (or their babies) are "so cute!" What other view is there on this topic? What sources are there to go off of? The breeders and traffickers obviously think it should be both legal and unregulated for profit motives, and claim that (some) people might be able to properly care for a pet primate, but are there reliable sources to support their views? The (reliable) literature is predominantly one-sided, and it largely comes from the academic community.

If you want think a point of view is being omitted, please find a reliable source and add some content. Otherwise I'll remove the tag. No strawman, please.

... On second thought, maybe you were suggesting that we need to address why people in impoverished countries hunt and sell these animals. If that's the case, that's an excellent point. In fact, think I found a source for it earlier tonight. I'll try to add it soon as I work on re-writing the "Conservation" section of the Slow Loris article over the next day or two. – VisionHolder « talk » 04:10, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Ehh... Since the bot recently slapped a date tag on the template, I assumed the tag was new. It looks like it's been there for a while. Either way, I encourage feedback on what it would take to make the section more "global" in view. – VisionHolder « talk » 04:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Legal def.[edit]

My attempt at finding a legal definition for "exotic pet" was not as productive as I had hoped. - Anyone who can do a better job, please do! Especially international laws. ~E 74.60.29.141 (talk) 00:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)<

I don't think that there is a legal definition. I know that in the US various states have definitions for, and restrictions on keeping native wildlife, and some likewise have restrictions or definitions on potentially invasive species/agricultural pests. I'm pretty sure some also have definitions of livestock and/or domestic animals. But "exotic pet" seems to be a rather vague, catch-all term. —Quintucket (talk) 02:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Potential source[edit]

In addition to menageries and animal welfare, this article from the BBC talks about exotic pet ownership in Victorian England and gives a good bit of detail about the history of exotic pet ownership.

– Maky « talk » 15:04, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Definition and scope[edit]

I removed cockatiels because it seems odd to include the second most-commonly kept species of parrot (looking at the history, somebody added budgies and cockatiels, and budgies were removed by a later user). But truth be told, I'm not really enamored of this article, since it seems to be a lot of original research with no clear definition. If this article is going to be a real article, to start with it really needs some reliably-sourced idea of what "exotic" means.

I was told by a vet that there's three main specialties of veterinary medicine: "small animals" which means commonly kept companion mammals (he mentioned cats, dogs, rodents, rabbits), "large animals" (he mentioned horses and cattle, which seems to indicate livestock) and "exotics," which is everything else. If this is true, I could probably find a source, but this article isn't about veterinary medicine (and he may have been oversimplifying anyways.

This article seems to be about two things: trade in endangered species/illegal pet trade, and pet primates. It seems like the most sensible thing might be to split off the latter, and turn this into an article about the former, perhaps moved to "exotic pet trade." (We have an article on CITES and an article on wildlife smuggling, of which the exotic pet trade would seem to be a sub-category.) An article on the exotic pet trade, and another on primates as pets would both seem to provide scope for verifiable coherent articles. But right now it seems to be a confused and poorly-referenced model, reeking of original research, with no clear scope or verifiable definition.

I'd say I'm asking for thoughts before I do this, but really if I do decide to be bold, I'll probably do it at some indefinite time in the future. So this is more an invitation for anybody else to do my work for me if (as is highly likely) I don't ever get to it, and an invitation to argue/explanation of my rationale with me if I somehow do get to it, and someone objects. —Quintucket (talk) 02:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)