Talk:FC Dallas

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Homegrown Player table[edit]

Hey, as a Timbers' fan. Before I leave Wikipedia, I would like to know if it should be a good idea for FC Dallas' page having a chart of it's homegrown players making it unique to FC Dallas, since the franchise does value their talent from their academies and so forth unlike LA Galaxy who depends on old players whose names are already known. Should include name, nationality, and year of signing. Any comments or concerns?

There previously was such a page, but it and several other MLS academy pages were deleted. See [[1]] --Lhts120 (talk) 23:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

This was my first wikipedia edit. I added the info about the U.S. Open Cup. I'm a fan of the team and thought the one trophy they've won should be mentioned. Dave Walker

Name Change[edit]

Does the 'F.C.' in the team name stand for something? I thought it might be 'FrisCo', but now I think it might be 'Football Club'. Acjelen 04:54, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Acjelen, It does indeed stand for Football Club. And, it's actually "FC" not "F.C.". I've changed all the "F.C" that I found, but I don't know how to change the name of the article. I love the way people have taken this article and improved it so much since my first tiny change last summer.

Dave Walker 01:50, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The page could be moved to "FC Dallas", by either moving its contents (that will lose history) or posting on Wikipedia:Requested moves or asking an admin for the move. Frankly, I don't see the big deal with the dots; the page can stay here as is (it looks consistent with D.C. United and C.D. Chivas USA), and if you want to link here, you can always do [[F.C. Dallas|FC Dallas]]. But either way is fine... --Dryazan 14:21, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

At the moment the page "FC Dallas" redirects to "F.C. Dallas" These two pages could be transposed. That is, copy and past the contents of one onto the other. I've never done that to an article with graphics. There is a nice long list of other pages that link to "F.C. Dallas". By switching the two pages, we could avoid editing those links. Hopefully others would notice the redirect and make the changes themselves. --Acjelen 16:32, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The problem with that is that the article will lose its history. --Dryazan 16:34, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'm ok with leaving it as is, so as not to lose the history. Dave Walker 18:06, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Actually, F.C. stands for Futbol Club. That has been always the name since day one of rebranding. According to FCDallas' own fact sheet: "What does FC in FC Dallas stand for? F stands for "Futbol" which is the globally used term for the sport, and C stands for "Club" which again is the accurate reference to a team globally."

I wouldn't have a problem with this move to "FC Dallas (MLS)", except for the (MLS) part. As of now, the original "FC Dallas" page is sitting stagnant, and at this point would follow with two redirections, which is not done automatically. There is nothing else that would prevent that site with being taken back. It simply sounds easier to restore it to reduce or even eliminate all the redirections. One more reason is that this page in EVERY other language exists as "FC Dallas". Otav347 2:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I moved it to FC Dallas. It's just logical. DR31 (talk) 12:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

The full name is Football Club Dallas. It is taken from European clubs which states that as well. FC Dallas can't be an exception. It wasn't established as the European clubs with the similar name. It wasn't the original name of the club either. Bluhaze777 (talk) 14:32, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

It alludes to the European team (or club) names, but it could also be Spanish and be "Fútbol Club", particularly with their location in the U.S. and who they're attempting to appeal to. It could be that the club is appealing to a German crowd and be a "Fußball Club". All would be just as reasonable as the English spelling, especially considering the league's allowance of "Real Salt Lake" and not having any royal appointment of that name.
The fact is that while it may stand for something that would be translated into English as "Football Club" it doesn't ever expand to that exact phrase in print or legal documents. Toronto's article was expanded because of two tenuous uses of the term. Unless you can find substantial use of the full phrase, we would have to exclude its use here as well. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:32, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

"Move" needs to be fixed[edit]

When Dr31 "moved" this page from FC Dallas (MLS) to here, it wasn't actually moved. Everything was simply copied and pasted to here. That lost all the edit history to the page. That edit history is still sitting over there at the (MLS) one. Can someone fix this? Metros232 13:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, my bad. I just requested the move at Wikipedia:Requested moves DR31 (talk) 15:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I've tagged this for a fix by the guidelines on WP:SPLICE. This will have an admin delete this page, move the FC Dallas (MLS) page to here. The admin should probably also combine the histories of these two pages since a couple of edits have been made since its move to here. Metros232 15:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Done. —Nightstallion (?) 07:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Dashes and hyphens[edit]

All other MLS team pages use regular dashes in the team info box and in player, coaches area. If you switch this page to use mdash and ndash, please be consistent and change all other MLS pages as well. DR31 (talk) 13:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Those articles and the version you keep changing back to are NOT dashes—they are hyphens. Hyphens and dashes are used for different things. I suggest you consult with an English instructor or take a look at how to use hyphens and dashes in the college writing manual. Please do you not change dashes to hyphens again. You are using it incorrectly! I do not have time to change all of the articles to the proper en dash and em dash. Also, please do not force your preferences on using the hyphens on all articles. I believe it was you that made all the articles "consistent" by improperly using the hyphens instead of dashes.
Here are examples of what the hyphen, en dash, and em dash look like and when to use them:
Hyphen: (third-largest)
En dash: (1995–2003)
Em dash: (2005—)
RJN 22:05, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Honors[edit]

I noticed that the Brimstone Cup was included among the "Honors." Should 2-club contests really be included with true competition awards? Other club pages omit them under their "Honers." Would it be better to note it in its own section? -- Quinn 33 11:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

General Managers[edit]

How about adding GM's? arthur 23:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

There was a GM section but all the guys on the list were redlinked so I removed the section. In truth, MLS GMs are rather non-notable and somewhat excessive information. м info 17:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I just saw GM sections with other MLS teams and thought it would be good for Dallas to also have one, especially since they were ownerless for a long time, and the President/GMs played a bigger role than with most other teams. arthur 15:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

International matches[edit]

I am from the Dutch Wikipedia and I'm expanding that article a lot, but my question is: is it right that they played for the 5th place after winning the semifinals? Or am I wrong... my userpage at the dutch wikipedia

Using Football v. Soccer on a N. American article[edit]

I think it is more reasonable to use "football (soccer)" as opposed to "football" or "soccer" for a couple of reasons:

1. While this is an article based on a North American team, the bottom line is that the official team name incorporates FC in its name. Whether or not this is an attempt to be trendy, the fact of the matter is that FC stands for Football Club. The term soccer is directly taken from association football so as to discern between it and (most notably in the UK) rugby football. If the team didn't have the FC attached to it, it would be a different story in that respect.

2. This article, as part of a greater body of articles on the game and clubs that play it, should adhere to certain naming conventions. The game is called football by a good 95% of the world's population, and while this is a North American based article, viewable by everyone, thus it should, to be consistent and fair, adhere to those same conventions. A compromise, since this team is based in North America where 'football' means something the Cowboys and Steelers play, is for soccer to appear in parentheses as it does in the actual article about the game. Ryecatcher773 18:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Picture of Shirts[edit]

The picture of the home/away shirts, while much prettier than the hodgepodge approximations we have usually on team's websites, they are eggregiously outdated and are in serious need of update. Can someone with a little more technical skill work on this? -- Grant.Alpaugh 15:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Mike Graczyk[edit]

Is it correct that Mike Graczyk is a Dallas-player and not from the Colorado Rapids...?? Rubietje88 (nl) 17:28, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Graczyk officially plays for Colorado not Dallas. Minfo (talk) 03:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

2009 Season article[edit]

Your club doesn't yet have a 2009 Season article, we are hoping to get each of the MLS teams up and going like these; Sounders, Fire, Dynamo, Wizards, and TFC. If you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me at anytime. Thanks Morry32 (talk) 01:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

conference champs[edit]

Talk:New York Red Bulls#conference champions

just adding a link to a centralized discussion on division champions conventions. Please post comments there.

Nlsanand (talk) 04:04, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Photo request[edit]

Getting a picture of the team is not likely to happen outside of an official team photo, and therefore probably copyright to the team. I'm removing the photo request as it would require us to violate wikipedia policies. Hasteur (talk) 12:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

El Capitán image[edit]

Does anyone have a picture of El Capitán? I think an image of the cannon would really raise the value of this article and the Texas Derby article. --Blackbox77 (talk) 18:40, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Change in roster format[edit]

There was a discussion about the new roster format and we have had a trial at both the Timbers and Whitecaps articles and recently Cascadia Cup rival Sounders have converted. The idea is to move all club articles on Wikipedia to the new format as is discussed in the original discussion and more recently at the football project.

My suggestion is to complete the MLS team articles first, so if you could respond at this discussion, that would be ideal. In short, the new layout is slightly taller and less wide, but it correctly impliments WP:MOSFLAG and is better for visually impared users of Wikipedia and others who use readers. I plan to implement the change to this article by the weekend of January 20-22, however other editors could make the change sooner. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:53, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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Jesse González[edit]

González filled one-time switch and it was accepted by FIFA, which means that for all purpose he's now cap-tied for USA and will NEVER play for Mexico anymore. Therefore, his flag should be the american flag, since is pointless to --SirEdimon (talk) 02:54, 30 June 2017 (UTC)keep his name attached to mexican flag, if he is considered american by FIFA and will never play for Mexico.--SirEdimon (talk) 23:25, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

And when he steps onto the field for the US, he'll be American, until then, he's still Mexican. Ask at WP:FOOTY if you don't believe me. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
He's already CAP TIED fo US. He doesn't need to step onto the field for US. In the moment, FIFA accepted his request, he became american for all purpose. You want to pretend he's still mexican when is not. --SirEdimon (talk) 00:49, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
He does have to cap for the US. He does need to step onto the field for the US. I recognize that FIFA has accepted his request, but he's still not American until he takes to the field. You want change the rules that we use on Wikipedia for this one player? Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:57, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
From the moment FIFA accepted his request, he's already cap-tied. Even though, he never plays for US. Jesse Gonzalez and Kenny Saief are americans internationals for FIFA even if they never ever dress for US, because from the moment you file a one-time switch and FIFA accepted it, it's done. You are commited with a NT for the rest of your life. It's different, for example, of Dom Dwyer. He was born in England and for all purposes, he's english. Even though, he had declared his commitment with US, until he steps on the field for the americans, he still english, because, he was not capped (or cap tied) for any nation, which means that his born place stands over anything.--SirEdimon (talk) 02:07, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
That's very interesting and wrong. Suppose he dies before he takes the field. Dwyer is not the same case. But nice try. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:33, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Man, if you look at any website covering this story, you gonna see that they say the same thing. González can now ONLY represent the United States at the international level. The same as Saief. But show me where in Wikipedia is written that cap-tied players must to keep wearing their youth NT flag and then you can keep pretending González is still mexican and Saief is still israeli.--SirEdimon (talk) 02:54, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Correction: if you look an any American website.
What happens if González dies or is injured so that he is incapable of playing and never steps onto the field? What nation would his last international game be for? Are you anticipating his first step onto the field? You can keep pretending he played for the US, but the truth is.... Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:08, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
If he dies now, he will be an american international, because from the moment FIFA confirmed his one-time switch he became an american international for all purposes. For FIFA, he's american since June 29, 2017 and he's cap-tied. It means, he cannot play for Mexico or any other nations. Lets just wonder, ok. Even, if Arena or any another USMNT coach, don't give him any minute of playing time for US, he will never be able to play for any other country because he cap-tied for US. So, this is my point. He already a cap-tied american international player for FIFA rules and therefore should use american flag ahead of his name, just like Saief.--SirEdimon (talk) 03:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
You're so absolutely wrong, but you don't seem to care. Have a nice life. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:09, 30 June 2017 (UTC)