Talk:Falange Española de las JONS

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Role of the Church[edit]

Could someone provide more information about the role of the Catholic Church in this group? Other entries for fascist groups make it clear how closely they worked together. --192.223.243.6 (talk) 18:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Concur. On a larger scale, this article needs a description of their political platform. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 19:08, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

FET y de las JONS[edit]

Modified name of movement to track Spanish language entry for the Party, see http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falange_Espa%C3%B1ola_Tradicionalista_y_de_las_Juntas_de_Ofensiva_Nacional_Sindicalista — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.104.11 (talk) 14:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Ceased to be fascist?[edit]

"After the party was coopted by Francisco Franco and consolidated with the Carlists, it ceased to have a fascist character (to the extent Fascism is considered revolutionary) inasmuch as Franco was a Monarchist, although it retained many of the external trappings of Fascism"

Dear Dear wikipedists, what an eclectic and clever apology for Franco's dictatorial rule — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:8500:982:C4B8:E66B:E68A:9D29 (talk) 22:50, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

It is widely recognized as being an authoritarian conservative nationalist movement under the leadership of Franco that while emulating fascism to appeal for support from fascists in Spain and abroad in the 1930s and 1940s, did not have the radical transformative goals of fascism. The Falange is recognized as fascist during Primo de Rivera's leadership. Franco took control of the party and turned it into a Nationalist version of the Republicans' Popular Front movement, incorporating conservative, clerical, and monarchist parties into the Falange. This is not an "apology" for Franco, it is what most scholars regard his regime as, that accusation is slandering editors being apologist is not following the Wikipedia policy of assuming good faith from editors. Please be more constructive with your criticisms.--74.12.195.73 (talk) 17:15, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Title change, violation of WP:COMMON NAME[edit]

The previous title of the article that was simply "Falange" represented WP:COMMON NAME, the current name does not represent WP:COMMON NAME, and is one of several Spanish variations of the title - this one in partial short form, another in long form, and the third in full short form (FE y de las JONS). The current title is not the common name and there has been no justification given why the previous title "Falange" is inappropriate for this article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.9.248 (talkcontribs) 06:55, 1 February 2015

Page name move[edit]

Why was the page moved without discussion? Ogress smash! 02:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

There should be three articles:
  1. Falange Española, currently redirects here
  2. Falange Española de las Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional Sindicalista, currently Falange Española y de las JONS, which is incorrect
  3. Falange Española Tradicionalista y de las Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional Sindicalista
The title Falange ought to redirect to one of these; currently it redirects to the last. We also have Falangism, which is a possible rediret target. Srnec (talk) 17:33, 21 August 2015 (UTC)