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Why is "List of famous Minnesotans" under "Overconfidence effect" in the "See Also" section?


I have heard both pro-life activists and pro-choice activists refer to their side as the "silent majority". This seems like a perfect example of the false consensus effect, as obviously both sides cannot be correct. I have no sources for either side referring to themself as such, so I'm hesitant to add this information to the article, but I want to at least put it out there in case other people know of examples that could be used as sources. --Icarus 05:31, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

There was a research I know of in the beginning of the eighties in the Netherlands on nuclear power. First, people had to indicate if they were in favor, or against, nuclear energy, and in what amount. After that, they had to estimate the percentage of dutch people and the percentage of members of parliament who were in favor of nuclear energy. People against nuclear energy judged the amount of public support less then people in favour of nuclear energy. The number of MP's was estimated in a smaller range, and the researches guessed that this was because MP's express their opinon in the media, and therefore people had a more accurate idea of the postitions (Source Van der Linden, J., Ester, P., & Van der Pligt, J. (198X). Kernenergie en publieke opinie: een onderzoek naar achtergronden van houdingen ten aanzien van kernenergie en de invloed hierop van het wonen bij een kerncentrale. Amsterdam: Vrije Universiteit. Instituut voor milieuvraagstukken.)

But I'm wondering, isnt this an issue of the end seventi4es, early eighties, can't we fund more recent applications? --137.120.3.220 12:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

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geschatte percentage van de Nederlandse bevolking dat vóór uitbreiding van het aantal kerncentrales is. 58% 48% 41% 34% 29%
geschatte percentage van de Tweede Kamerleden dat vóór uitbreiding van het aantal kerncentrales is. 56% 50% 46% 46% 43%

pizza[edit]

what is that sentence doing in there about pizza? even if it does make sense it's written horribly --98.169.245.233 (talk) 00:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Conclusion[edit]

Really great to see this article being expanded and developed, using quality academic sources. One change I'd like to see is a removal of the "Conclusion" section. Essays have conclusions, but encyclopedia articles don't. An encyclopedia article should leave the reader to draw their own conclusions from a balanced presentation of the facts. MartinPoulter (talk)

Yes, an interesting (and well-presented) article, but as MartinPoulter says, the "conclusion" section looks out of place. I'd suggest that the "applications" and "uncertainties" sections are perhaps a little unencyclopaedic too. Remember, the article is intended to tell the general reader what 'false consensus effect' is, according to the sources, not to assess it's validity according to Wikipedia - that isn't our job. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:41, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Applications[edit]

The "Applications" section has a lot of original research/essay speculation. Anyone know of some more good peer-reviewd applications of this theory? David Delony (talk) 18:14, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

David Delony I fail to see the speculation, can you (or others) please provide specific examples? This wording appears to be at an consensus point. Endercase (talk) 20:10, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
@Endercase: David Delony is correct. It is indeed filled with WP:OR. It's possible some or all of that can be found in WP:RS. If not, it could all be deleted. I will tag it appropriately. I see this a lot in legal articles. Some of them have NO WP:RS. However, I know enough about to law to know that the articles are correct, and depending on time, I add RS. If you know of WP:RS, you can always provide the citations. --David Tornheim (talk) 15:39, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
@David Tornheim: Instead of just saying "David Delony is correct." could you provide specific examples on how this essay is incorrect or how it could be made better? My understanding of WP:OR is that it is harmful to the encylopedia only because it often provide incorrect information. If the information is correct there are no harms. Endercase (talk) 15:50, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I didn't say it is incorrect, I said it has no citations. The way to improve it is to provide citations to WP:RS.
Also, I decided not to tag the section since so much of the article is well-sourced, but a tag is completely warranted.
The proper tag is {{refimprove section}}. which would create this:
Anyway, if you know of some good sources, provide the citations. --David Tornheim (talk) 15:53, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
David Tornheim How's that? Endercase (talk) 17:38, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
@Endercase: This edit seems a bit extreme, since the problem seems to be with just that one section. I thought the original tag {{Essay|section|date=September 2011}} was appropriate, but so would the one I stated above. The tags you added now cover the entire article. I suggest you open up a separate talk page section to explain the tag and the numerous problems you see in the article and how they might be corrected so that the tag can be removed. --David Tornheim (talk) 03:13, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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