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at type of felt? It seems to fit the definition. ike9898 02:28, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)
- No, as felt is made with wool. Don't feel the need to base everything on how it is made. Classifying paper as felt would be silly, as it isn't felt. -anon
- 1 Merge Felting and Feltmaking into Felt
- 2 Merge with Baize?
- 3 Diagram Request
- 4 Questionable statements
- 5 Where can one obtain real felt?
- 6 Acrylic felt?
- 7 Machine washing
- 8 Only Wool
- 9 Toxic?
- 10 Strange but important topic
- 11 felt sagging
- 12 The "construction" section is very hard to understand, almost incomprehensible - really written for experts in textiles
Merge Felting and Feltmaking into Felt
I don't think the two articles are distinct enough. They should be sections of this article (felt). Kslays 17:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
- I definitely agree with this. In fact, I'm not sure that feltmaking even has any (encyclopedic) content not contained here. --Deville (Talk) 01:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Something is wrong with the following:
"Highly sophisticated felted artifacts were found preserved in permafrost in a tomb in Siberia and dated to 600 AD. prevent blisters. At the end of their journey, the movement and sweat had turned the wool into felt socks."
Emphasis should be placed on the difference between fur felt and wool felt. The manufacturing processes are similar, but the treatment of the fibers at the beginning is quite different. Wool is not carrotted. Fur is brushed on the skin with carrott, and then the fur is cut off the skin. Paper is not felt: it doesn't fit the definition of the fibers twisting around themselves and shrinking. (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Merge with Baize?
Was proposed 2006-10-21 by anonymous user.
Disagree with merge. Felt is non-woven. Baize is woven but napped to imitate felt. It may be OK (if true) to write that Americans sometimes call baize "felt" (and link both ways) but I think it would be confusing to have them in the same article. Perhaps one should even write that "baize" is sometimes erroneously referred to as "felt" in the USA. --Boson 18:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Boson. Felt and (woven) cloth are opposites. D021317c 01:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The manufacturing section is confusing, and would benefit from both a rewrite and a diagram. PatrickFisher 14:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
"Felt is comfy and it smells like roses, tulips, or daisies." Isn't "comfy" a subjective term? Nor have I ever encountered cloth felt that smells like roses, tulips or daisies - is this something fictional or is it the qualities of one scented brand's sortiment? I'm gonna remove it, but someone putting in a more informative and objective version if wanted is welcome. ZNull (talk) 10:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Where can one obtain real felt?
I have an old physics text, that put felt at the top of the list in ability to absorb sound. The reason I ask may seem strange. Here in the USA, since at least the year 2000, covert ultrasound weapons have been used to target individuals, I know since I am one of the victims. I need to get real felt to test its shielding ability against these weapons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 05:40, 8 August 2007
The article introduction doesn't specify a fiber, then later wool is specified and the description refers to properties of animal fibers. I don't know enough about the topic to make a useful edit, but I know felt can be made with acrylic fiber as well. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 16:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Needle felts can be made with (nearly) all kinds of fibres, including mineral and polymer fibres. These felts represent the majority of the felts produced in industry, with polyester being by far the most used fibre material. I'll try to write a few things about this in the article (as soon as I find some time). --JogyB (talk) 14:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Therefore, woolen clothes should only be hand-washed or machine-washed in cold water. Except that superwash wool is becoming more and more common. Also this seems to imply (to me at least) that one should never machine wash woolen clothing, even if the goal might be to felt them. So I've removed the sentance. Loggie (talk) 19:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
It tends to work well only with woolen fibers as their scales, when aggravated, bond together to form a cloth. Is Beaver "Woolen?"
Stetson prefers Beaver so why would it work well "Only," with wool?
contribs) 21:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- No, felt is not toxic. However, some chemicals used for feltmaking could be. But even if it is not toxic, I don't think it's healthy to eat a felt hat. --JogyB (talk) 16:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Strange but important topic
Someone has asked for verification of the existence of felt in frozen burials in Siberia, and I happen to know that this refers to the Frozen Tombs of Pazyryk, which are well-documented online. There are several large pieces of felt from there exhibited in the Hermitage Museum in Moscow. I find it interesting that this material is so poorly treated here, given its antiquity and importance as a material among nomadic peoples, and though I would fill in the blanks, so to speak, I am, perhaps, at one with the anonymous contributor who just wants to get hold of a big piece of felt, so as to use it to avoid the attentions of remote surveillance devices! It must be someone else's job to fill in the blanks and provide the appropriate references...
We have been using felt to cover large panels for backdrops. we have been using decorative felt. we pull it tight over a canvas covered frame. what we have found the last few times is under heavy air-conditioning i.e lots of cold air, the felt has become slightly saggy/ripply. does anyone know a way of stopping this. Thanks ---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 19:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- I know this is four years late, but the only thing you can do that might work is apply some kind of fixative similar to felt hat stiffener. You have probably found that stretching it tighter does not work. It only makes the felt thinner and more prone to sagging because the fibers have been decompressed, and felt is a compression process. Your other option is to use baize, a woven fabric with a felted finish. Baize is normally what is used to cover pool tables, although the best ones are covered with felt.Euonyman (talk) 17:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
The "construction" section is very hard to understand, almost incomprehensible - really written for experts in textiles
For instance, the first sentence in the "Construciton" section: "Felt is made by a process called wet felting, where the natural wool fibre is stimulated by friction and lubricated by moisture (usually soapy water), and the fibres move at a 90 degree angle towards the friction source and then away again, in effect making little "tacking" stitches. Only 5% of the fibres are active at any one moment, but the process is continual, and so different 'sets' of fibres become activated and then deactivated in the continual process." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlrosen (talk • contribs) 09:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's not too technical. It needs text editing (and some copy editing, to repair elisions) to fix the logic and some of the syntax. A straightforward layout of the compression and mulling process would help instead of talking about fibres moving at angles toward the "friction source." As it stands, the author looks like the only one who can take a crack at it. It's really not comprehensible enough for a little fiddling by someone else.Euonyman (talk) 17:28, 8 February 2014 (UTC)