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Thanks the author for your great work! The page indeed helps me a lot!

This is Wikipedia. There are a great many authors.

word count change[edit]

We should try to make the word count per genre consistent with the word count page which seems to be the basis for most of classification of fiction here.--Acebrock 18:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

NM I just did that--Acebrock 18:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

college writing courses[edit]

I'd like to see something in here about college writing courses. Benbenbenben 02:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Probably more appropriate under an article that could be called "writing courses." This article is more about the writing process itself. Not all writing courses are taught in a college setting and not all writing courses are just about writing fiction. Mazeface 04:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

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One of the best points of this helpful piece is its brevity and punch. You list really basic elements of fiction writing, and you may not consider "foreshadowing" in the forefront.

Yet if foreshadowing is defined broadly, it may be pertinent to other effects than slam-bang suspense and so may be of more general interest and application. I've written a piece, with rather broad scope called "Shadowing the Reader" in "Phony Pearls of Fictitious Wisdom" at You might or might not like the piece, but I suggest that you include a solid reference to what may be an underrated tool in fiction writing. 16:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

An article on foreshadowing already exists. Since you mentioned it, I created a link to that article from this article. You may want to view the article on foreshadowing and possibly contribute to it. Mazeface 18:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Genres within Fiction[edit]

I suggest that there be some sort of subtext for this explaining the various genres of fiction such as Fantasy, Horror, Romance, etc. etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsearnest (talkcontribs) 02:16, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


This as well as having a section on genres of fiction as I have mentioned earlier, I feel is important to have on the 'Fiction Writing' article. I do feel as though dialogue within writing fiction goes without saying, but I do however feel it would be of importance to someone who is a novice to writing fiction. I realize that Dialogue and Genre fiction are both Wiki article on their own, I just feel they should be added to this article as well, seeing that those are two important factors of writing fiction. The article is a generality of Fiction writing, but I would like to see a more in depth article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsearnest (talkcontribs) 14:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Could you please be more specific with your proposal and expand upon what you mean?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:25, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

For example Dialogue could be 7.6, or its own subtext really, and give information on what dialogue is.

A visual example of this:


Dialogue is the interaction of two or more characters of a story. This helps the story move along by letting the characters, as well as the narration, contribute to the writing of the prose. etcetera etcetera.

Simply interaction? So, if two characters are dancing, they're engaging in dialogue?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:17, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Same thing can be done for Genre.


In fiction writing a Genre is a topic or category in which the writing, or writer/author, is focusing their work on. There are many genres in Fiction writing such as Romance Horror, Mystery, Young Adult etcetera etcetera . The Genres could also be links that lead to other pages that give a more in depth description of said genres, which are already wiki articles of themselves.

I am suggesting these changes because I am currently a college student working on an assignment for my English course. We are to critique and hopefully improve a Wiki article. I am viewing this article through the eyes of someone who has no knowledge of Fiction Writing at all. Since I do realize Wiki is a popular source to gather information, Why not fill this article with enough information on Fiction Writing to satisfy the researcher?

Many reasons why not. You yourself say you have no knowledge of fiction writing at all. See the problem? Why add something to an article when you know nothing? Wikipedia does not benefit by having college students fill up articles with information when they do not know anything.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:17, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

As I mentioned before I realize that dialogue and Genre are their own Wiki articles, however I feel that it is important that they have a subtext in this one.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsearnest (talkcontribs) 23:50, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

May I suggest? Learn something about fiction writing first. Please understand this is advice coming from a Wikipedian who is also sadly clueless about almost all things. On your browser, put the term in quotes. Then add a search string such as this one: ( OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR Now, hopefully what we have here are people knowledgeable about fiction writing, more knowledgeable than us. Got it? Read what they say. If you find a factoid or truthy-truthism or information-nugget or profoundly-inspiring-sentence that you think will give readers mind-expanding insights and possibly nipple erections to boot, add it to the article and here's the clinker: end your addition with an inline checkable reference. Here's a quick guide about one way to do this. Now, we've solved the problem. We brought experts here to enlighten Wikipedia and we have an inline checkable reference so fellow Wikipedians can check that your addition is right. Good luck on your project.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:17, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry that I did not make my point more clear. I happen to have studied Fiction writing for a year and continue to consistently write and study the craft. What I would like to happen to this page, which was my overall point, Is that I want this page to be filled with enough knowledge for someone who doesn't know anything about FW. I was simply comparing myself to someone who wouldn't know. But since I do, I feel that my contributions would be some degree of importance.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsearnest (talkcontribs) 21:39, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Will your professor grade you based on your contributions to this article in Wikipedia?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

About Jenna Blum[edit]

Clearly Blum is an acknowledged authority on fiction writing, which is why the Modern Scholar series chose her to do a CD-audio course on The Author at Work: The Art of Writing Fiction. Her book Those Who Save Us is a NY Times bestseller; Blum is one of Oprah’s Top 30 Women Writers. So it seems perfectly appropriate to have Blum's views on fiction writing presented here, and don't understand why the photo is a "glamour shot" and how that might even be relevant, especially coming from Allobore, a SPA account, whose only contributions at Wikipedia are anti-Blum.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:17, 13 December 2015 (UTC)