Talk:Fleur-de-lis

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How can I find prayers to the Black Madonna?[edit]

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Image overload?[edit]

Is it just me or does this page have too many images? It could be that the images are too large and take up too much space, but even so. I understand that this is an article about a graphic, but I still feel that on the encyclopedia, meaningful prose is more important than abundant visual demonstration — after all, the latter is what Commons is for. Maybe some of the extraneous graphics could be cut out, and those remaining could be reduced in size where appropriate? Specifically, I think that there are too many coats of arms (outside the gallery) and too many pieces of artwork/etc. that simply happen to show the image. One or two for illustrative purposes seems like it would be sufficient. ~ Boomur [] 02:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

for reference, here (imgur) is a screenshot of part of the page from my computer. my screen resolution is the popular 1366 x 768; my browser window is at full size, but i've cropped out the toolbar, tabs, etc. i think it's a good example of "there are too many images here, where am i supposed to look?" ~ Boomur [] 02:47, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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John Calvin was convicted for homosexual activity and thusly branded with a fleur-de-lis...[edit]

Heaps of references on the internet anent John Calvin being branded with a fleur-de-lis after being convicted for homosexual activity. The aforesaid should be at least byworded and furthermore the whyfors set out anent the fleur-de-lis being an onetime marker for homosexuality convictions.

"An interesting story: in 1527, the year he was 18, Calvin was arrested, tried, and convicted of homosexual activity. Instead of being executed (per French law at the time), he was branded with a fleur-de-lis on one of his shoulders" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.69.20 (talk) 00:15, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

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France Modern/Moderne[edit]

The article alternates, for no good reason that I can see, between the spellings "France Modern" (which seems unlikely, since ordinary French words - as opposed to a few proper names - don't end in -rn) and "France Moderne" (which is correct French). I don't know for certain which is right - "France Modern" may be acceptable in heraldic English, alongside "France Ancient" - but the spelling should surely be consistent throughout the article. The same inconsistency occurs in the article on "National emblem of France".213.127.210.95 (talk) 14:18, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Agreed. Care to take a shot at fixing it? Bindle-stiff (talk) 05:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Long lists of indiscriminate information[edit]

Much of this article currently appears to consist of long list of "...the fleur de lis appears in the... [insert symbol/ flag/ crest/ uniform] of [whatever/ whomever]." Wikipedia is not meant to be a catalogue of every instance of the occurrence of a thing, but a selective account of the most prominent examples of it. One thing this article does NOT need any more mentions of additional occurrences of this symbol anywhere in the world, and what it could really use is a paring down of the various lists of occurrences throughout so that it has only the most interesting and relevant ones. This is practically fancruft. Bindle-stiff (talk) 05:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Iris and Lily[edit]

It seems to me this is a mix of 2 symbols at least. There is a symbol of iris that is used in Florence for instance. - Iris Fiorentina. And there is a symbol of lily, that is used in i.e. Bosnia. - Lilium_bosniacum These are not the same flowers. They don't look the same in nature at all. see below https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilium_bosniacum https://www.intoflorence.com/history-giglio-florence/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.110.84.146 (talk) 19:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Odd introduction[edit]

I'm not a regular Wiki editor, but the intro on this looks very odd compared to much simpler 2018 version. Something that talked about the symbol first, and went into the history of the symbol in an early paragraph would be more readable. Grill (talk) 13:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)