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I agree, this article is supposed to be discussed here PRIOR to afd, otherwise its subversion of the Wiki process. I vote that the article is kept and adjusted in whatever way necessary to keep everyone happy.moza 13:32, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Excellent and thanks to all 100% KEEP voters, a victory for the 'little guy'.moza 06:04, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm happy the result was 'keep', but I don't know if gloating is helpful. Cnwb 23:05, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Its bad faith to assume bad faith apparently, anyway I dont see where I exhibited gloating, but I am happy to be directed to that. For reference I looked it up, and I have no malicious intent, in fact far from it, I am just re-assured that sometimes consensus seems to be had. My intent is to 'catch them getting it right' a philosophy of positivity and reward from the 'one minute manager' series, a few decades old now. I just went hard to ensure there is a clear notice for anyone else who runs around with their finger 'slipping by mistake on the afd button' that there is a better way, discuss first, and avoid all the extra workload. Also, that notability is different according to culture and country. The players in the game are of miniscule importance here, so any emotional assignment is mostly irrelevant. gratitude is different to pleasure methinks, and losing an afd can never be a misfortune, its simply (wiki style) justice.moza 05:27, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
gloating?. gloat Pronunciation (glt)
intr.v. gloat·ed, gloat·ing, gloats To feel or express great, often malicious, pleasure or self-satisfaction: Don't gloat over your rival's misfortune. n. 1. The act of gloating. 2. A feeling of great, often malicious, pleasure or self-satisfaction
All I meant was - The AFD is over, the article stays. You and User:Dcandeto and User:Ziggurat made your points in the AFD discussion. Now let's just get on with our business, and not run victory laps on this talkpage. Your victory speech, along with your implication that Dcandeto should learn his/her lesson, comes across as a little condescending. Cnwb 05:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
That was maybe a bit harsh. Basically, I'm wary of things like AFD turning into competitions, where one side 'wins' and the other 'loses'. I realise that you acted in good faith when making that comment, and I apologise if I came across as antagonistic. Keep up the good work. Cnwb 06:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)